almostboostedgsr

Well since I finished my gsr turbo project im going to start a d-series build. I bought a d15 with 195,000 miles on it from a friend. I need to know what internals should I get. I know pistons, rods, main bearings,rod bearing,piston rings. What would I need for the head since it has alot of miles.

Im thinkin in the words of a d15/d16 hybrid motor. How would I go about this.

Any help would be great.

almostboostedgsr

Bump. Any help

almostboostedgsr

yeah im a b-series guy. So to you d-series guys do you guys build d16/d15 hybrids.

almostboostedgsr

bump x2. I know if it was a question about a b-series you guys would have told me by now.

almostboostedgsr

anyone?

almostboostedgsr

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LstCivic

Well I have never built a d series but it looks you like you are on the right path. What hp goals are you looking towards? As far as the head I think the z6 is what everyone is liking. With that just cam it (I hear people are liking some from the Zex line up), some valve train (larger valves, new springs and retainers) and replacing the guides and what not. Just search around to see what setups people are running.

sohczcturbo

Hey. I'm in the process of doing a built sohc zc non v-tec, which is essentially a d16a. For boost, I'd recommend pistons and rods for sure. I went with probe I beam rods and Vitara's. The rods have given me a lot of clearance issues. First they were hitting the top of the pistons, then they wouldn't even go through the factory 1.6 bore (after two hone jobs) since apparently they were .0040 on an inch too wide and then they weren't clearing the block during rotations. So the rods were milled .0020 on each side, inside piston where milled just enough to clear rod heads, and knotched the block for clearance there. I'm my motor builders wet dream lol. But oh well, he does awsome work, so I can't complain. If you're more interested in my setup, let me know. I'm doing the sohc zc non vtec head rebuilt with o.e.m. guides and seals, stock valves, 3 angle valve job, slight port and polish (was running out money at that time lol) I think it should do good. I loved the motor in my CRX when it was n/a. Now it's going to be built and tuned for 20 lbs of boost in a 94 civic hatch so I'm more petrified than anything. Hoping to hit 400 whp on 20 psi or less. Message me if you want some more info or pics or have any questions. Good luck.

almostboostedgsr

Thanks for some advice. Well since I have the d15b7 im going to get a d16z6 head and a d16y8 intake manifold. So the d16z6 is the non-vtec correct?. Ill get the head milled down. Then send the whole z6 cylinder head to a shop to get all the goodies put in and a valve job.

The bottom end im going to just use the d15 get it bored .05. Then oversized forged pistons and eagle forged connecting rods. Then all the rest that goes in there.

Maybe this little d-series can out run my turbo gsr.

sohczcturbo

the z6 head is v-tec, but it'd be a good head to go with. you could attempt to do a mini me setup if youre on a budget. zc pistons with a z6 head, works pretty well from what i've seen. Just have to be carefully since zc pistons are high compression. and you could always bore your d15 into a 1.6 and be a sleeper.

almostboostedgsr

Alright so the z6 is the vtec head. Okay well im going to a local j-yard to look for a z6 head. What year of a civic did they come in ?. Im getting a y8 intake mani aswell I know I can get one off of a 96-98 honda civic ex.

Since my block has 202,000 miles on it, should I just buy a new block? If so where else can I get a new block from besides the honda stealership.

For now Ill just get the z6 head milled and get a stock valvetrain rebuild kit. Thats another question I have where can I get a stock valvetrain rebuild kit.

So as for the block goes if I can get a new one I plan on getting the d15b7 block then get it bored out to d16 specs. Then go from there.

Any help would be good.

CoreyR

you dont bore a D15 out to D16 specs. the difference in displacement comes from the stroke, not the bore, and as far as i know they dont make rods for D15's so your basically SOL. why would you even want to use a D15 when D16Z6 motors go for 2-300 in good shape?

Semnos

Crower makes rods for D15.

almostboostedgsr

Yes you can bore the d15 out to d16 specs. Its not that hard bro lol. Ive seen a b18c1 bored out to b18c5 specs before. So a d-series cant be that different.

Alright so ill check out crower rods.

Tippyman

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Alright so ill check out crower rods.

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He meant that the bore size on a D15 is the same as the bore on a D16.

The extra displacement that a D16 has comes from it's stroke.

CoreyR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by almostboostedgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes you can bore the d15 out to d16 specs. Its not that hard bro lol. Ive seen a b18c1 bored out to b18c5 specs before. So a d-series cant be that different.

Alright so ill check out crower rods.

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well you obviously dont have a clue considering a B18C1 (GSR) has a 81MM bore which is exactly the same size as a B18C5 (ITR) which is also 81MM. all B series motors have the same bore as a matter of fact, as do all D series (75MM). theres no such thing as boring it out to another motors specs, the difference in displacement in honda motors is the strokes of the cranks.

Tippyman

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well you obviously dont have a clue considering a B18C1 (GSR) has a 81MM bore which is exactly the same size as a B18C5 (ITR) which is also 81MM. all B series motors have the same bore as a matter of fact, as do all D series (75MM). theres no such thing as boring it out to another motors specs, the difference in displacement in honda motors is the strokes of the cranks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Everyone knows that a B18C5 has more displacement than a B18C1.

nihad

iTrader: (2)

people do bore d16 to 76mm ,77 i have seen piston for that application. Ok first advice is sell the d15.
Get a d16a6 rebuild it buy pistons 8.5:1 compression ratio also get some good rings total seal u can purchase them at arias that where i got mine. Arp head studs 59300 comp cam and a good turbo setup also fuel manigment like some 450 dsm or 550 rc set up should do it get it tuned or get a base map obd1 work great.

CoreyR

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wait, it does?!?!?!?!

i should say not ALL B series have the same bore, as a B20 is obviously larger at 84MM but you sure as **** aint "boring out a B18 to B20 specs" without sleeving

almostboostedgsr

Well yea you would have to use sleeves to bore a b18c1 to a b20. Also A gsr block is a smaller bore than a b18c5. If you didnt read the first line of my post it states I have a turbo stock block integra gsr already. I know what I need for my turbo setup. I know what management to run on this setup. lol geezes.

Okay you say all b-series are the same lol. Then how come a b16 is only 1.6liters and a b18 is 1.8liters.

Yes, I already know all d-series blocks are 75mm. There all 1.5 and 1.6 liters. When I said bore it out to d16 specs I meant the crank. Not the bore size.

Also, just a rule of thumb dsm 450cc injectors suck for hondas. Go to hondata's website and they tell why.


A gsr motor is 81mm. A type r motor is 81.5mm. Now your tellin me there the same lol.


I wrote this thread to get information on what should I do with a motor that has 195,000 miles on it so it is able to be turbocharged and not blow.

My integra has 48,000 miles. So I didnt have to mess with the internals.

I hate to be harsh, but some things I do know. I just didnt walk in to the import world last week.

Tippyman

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by almostboostedgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well yea you would have to use sleeves to bore a b18c1 to a b20. Also A gsr block is a smaller bore than a b18c5. If you didnt read the first line of my post it states I have a turbo stock block integra gsr already. I know what I need for my turbo setup. I know what management to run on this setup. lol geezes.

Okay you say all b-series are the same lol. Then how come a b16 is only 1.6liters and a b18 is 1.8liters.

Yes, I already know all d-series blocks are 75mm. There all 1.5 and 1.6 liters. When I said bore it out to d16 specs I meant the crank. Not the bore size.

Also, just a rule of thumb dsm 450cc injectors suck for hondas. Go to hondata's website and they tell why.


A gsr motor is 81mm. A type r motor is 81.5mm. Now your tellin me there the same lol.


I wrote this thread to get information on what should I do with a motor that has 195,000 miles on it so it is able to be turbocharged and not blow.

My integra has 48,000 miles. So I didnt have to mess with the internals.

I hate to be harsh, but some things I do know. I just didnt walk in to the import world last week.
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Sigh...

nihad

iTrader: (2)

most dseries are rebuilt before they are turboed i dont see a motor with that kinda milage lasting to long and if u supercharged it would cost more.
ha about the dsm injectors man do they tick

CoreyR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by almostboostedgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well yea you would have to use sleeves to bore a b18c1 to a b20. Also A gsr block is a smaller bore than a b18c5. If you didnt read the first line of my post it states I have a turbo stock block integra gsr already. I know what I need for my turbo setup. I know what management to run on this setup. lol geezes.

Okay you say all b-series are the same lol. Then how come a b16 is only 1.6liters and a b18 is 1.8liters.

Yes, I already know all d-series blocks are 75mm. There all 1.5 and 1.6 liters. When I said bore it out to d16 specs I meant the crank. Not the bore size.

Also, just a rule of thumb dsm 450cc injectors suck for hondas. Go to hondata's website and they tell why.


A gsr motor is 81mm. A type r motor is 81.5mm. Now your tellin me there the same lol.


I wrote this thread to get information on what should I do with a motor that has 195,000 miles on it so it is able to be turbocharged and not blow.

My integra has 48,000 miles. So I didnt have to mess with the internals.

I hate to be harsh, but some things I do know. I just didnt walk in to the import world last week.
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a B16 is 1.6 because it has a shorter stroke. a B18C5 is NOT 81.5MM they are ALL 81MM. how the expletive do you "bore out a crank"

your not being harsh. youre just a little retarded, and you really dont know ****.

almostboostedgsr

You dont bore out a crank. You buy a larger crank. Once again a b18c5 motor is 81.5. A b18c1 is 81mm.

Go to hondata.com for the thing on the dsm injectors.

I know a motor with 195,000 miles isnt going to last long under pressure. Thats why Im rebuilding it lol.

Thanks for all the help and funny comments.

I think im good to go on this lol.

narfdanarf

you sir are certainly retarded. listen to CoreyR. all b-series are 81mm except b20 which is 84.