trickmurf

Here is my setup
91 crx Si at 12psi
jdm b16 y1 tranny
9:1 compression (srp)
eagle rods
block gaurd
revhard stage 2c kit which is a t3/t4e
vortech BOV
rc 440 injectors
aem fuel rail
skunk 2 manifold
bbk 70mm TB
vafc controller
2 1/4 greddy cat back with no cat
My tires are yokohama A520 205/40 R17
my best 60 ft time is 2.3 with a 9.4 second run at 79.81 mph in the 1/8th
I know how to drive my car. I have let several of my friends run my car at the track and the best they can do is a 9.7 and they live at the track. Stock *** neon RT/4's are running 9.2 I look on honda tech all the time and see people with similar setups running any where from 8.5-8.7 on street tires. I know slicks would get me there but I want to do it without slicks. 8.9 would make my day. I have searched for several afc hack settings and used at least 10 different settings. If anyone is using close to the same setup please share your afc settings with me.
thanx

ricodemus

Whats your suspension setup? get those 60fts down and a bigger exhaust and you'll be there. When do you hit full boost?

The y1 has a long first gear, and I would think it may take a little while for the t3/t04e to spool on a 9:1 b16. You cant run the 1/4? I bet it pulls nice up top, doesn't it?

I also see that you have 17's too. see if you can borrow some steelies or something and try again.

Bailhatch

I did a b16 swap 94hb civic that runs 9.6 with a driver that has only draged once before. Hes only got I-H-E and clutch. The car is probably not even putting down 150 hp. Shoulden't you have a bunch more. Maybe you should try the 1/4 to give that thing time to spool. or maybe something is messed up. Does it pull hard on the street? or at least harder than a b16 civic?

hondahvn

stock b16 civics run 9.4 thats wierd you should have no probs running inthe 8s try a bfg gforce drag radial have you dynoed the car what did it make do you ride out first until it hooks or hit second and bog. with the short stroke and lack of tourque which will be multipled ten times by the lag these issues are of upmost importance. the 60s are off but not that far maybe a solid tenth but your looking for 5 tenths not one. the mph is there too that is what leads me to believe it may be a second gear thing what are your 330ft times. the only advise i can give is bounce off the rev limiter in first until it hooks or at least almost hooks hit second easy so you dont shock the tires and you should get those times down... itll take some practice but dont give up

sCeRaXn

i have a 91 crx with a b18a...i ran a damn 9.3 at 74 with i/h/e. Im turbod now but i havent been to the track since i finished it...but im hoping to hit mid to low 8's maybe. I say get those 60' times down alot and you should do ALOT better than that. Good luck

Sean

Blurex

iTrader: (1)

i would say your setup may not be running at its full potential....we have ran 9.3 with a stock LS and drag radials.....in a 91 crx si...i have ran 8.37 w/ b16 w/ 75 shot...make sure your setup is running right and you should be in the 8's no problem...but you will need some better tires...get some drag radials and play with lowering the tire pressure.....i like the 205/50/14 DR, set at 18 psi...i have pulled 1.9 60'.....tires make all the difference....good luck...if you get a good 60'your there...

trickmurf

thanks for all the usefull info. I will keep you informed on how i do when i get some drag radials.

madhatch

I drove a b16 with type r cams and got a 9.4 no lsd

88crxvtec

looking at your MPH I'd say your spinning too much or you have lots of boost lag. Whats the trim on your setup. I'm running a b16a with a t3/t4 in a CRX with Alzenias and FULL interior with big *** stereo. My MPH is 83 with a slipping clutch and spinning 1st and shifts. Check and make sure the car is running right.

GSRswapandslow

um...my hatch, with a stock gsr besides i/h/e, on 175/70-13's ran a 8.99 at 79.3mph...

you're car is busted as ****

nevin

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nsxmatt

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I wouldn't say his car is "busted as ****" it may just have some issues. Also the 1/8th mile is not a good place to judge a turbo car on. Most of them are just getting moving good by the time you hit the traps.

granada_sun

one word.....

SLICKS.....Those 17's will slow u down. I was running 9.4-9.6 in b16 del sol with steelies, put 17s back on shot up to 9.8-9.8 with lower reaction times.

I realize u said no slicks, but thatll drop your time considerably. Traction bars would help an *** ton too.

And with the bottom end built you should be able to handle past 12 psi.

_jester_

What do you run in the 1/4?

I ran a 13.8 with a 9.1 1/8th @ 81.99


2.40 60 ft on potenza's with cords showing- Boosted cars ******* suck in the 1/8th....*******

granada_sun

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I ran a 13.8 with a 9.1 1/8th @ 81.99


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.....@ 8psi??? What do you expect???

InTeGrA B18b1

80 percent driver too

90_Civic_Hatch

damn, some of you guys are being a bit ruff with some one trying to get some input.

I ran a 8.9 @ 84MPH (consistent low 9's) on a uphill track with:
b16 s1 cable tranny
greddy GSR trubo kit (18g turbo)
custom external turbonetics wastegate set @ 7psi
SMC for tuning
all seasons, 1 wheel peel, slipping clutch in 3rd and 4th
gutted 90 civic dx hatch

anyways, i would bet the rims and tires are your biggest issue right now, like a few others said. also the compression on your engine is quite low for a b16 IMO, but then again i think 10:1 compression is low for a turbo b16. next i would try the hocky puck mod for the rear end if your suspension is soft to help get the 60 fts. down a bit more.

EDIT: and i agree with the guy that said you needed a bigger exhaust. i ran mine with a open DP. i plan on getting the electronic e-cutout and going with the stock exhaust

granada_sun

welcome to HT.

The compression is no excuse, it just means more room for boost, especially with the built bottom end (ie eagle rods, arp rod bolts, block guard). Dude could easily push more psi.

granada_sun

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anyways, i would bet the rims and tires are your biggest issue right now, like a few others said. also the compression on your engine is quite low for a b16 IMO, but then again i think 10:1 compression is low for a turbo b16. next i would try the hocky puck mod for the rear end if your suspension is soft to help get the 60 fts. down a bit more.
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Compression is all about boost....regardless of what engine...i would up the boost a lil....

madhatch

I also agree about the 8th mile not being the place to judge your turbo, Make an appt with a 1/4 mile. my buddies Gti and I go at it in the 8th, my 9.2' to his 9.2 to 9.5 but in the quarter he murders me.

stupid fast 5.0

If you don't have HONDATA then thats your problem.. get rid of that vafc and get some engine management.. Get it dyno tuned by a good tuner and your problem will be solved.... Your setup should easily be able to get into mid 8's with slicks....

HONDATA is your friend!

stupid fast 5.0

Your in SC so if you don't mind a short trip, call MARK at Turbo Tune 336-378-1252 he can get you the hondata and tune it.. in Greensboro, NC

GSRswapandslow

hondata is the sux

i can get you a chipped ecu that can do JUST AS MUCH as hondata...but for MUCH MUCH less

granada_sun

Too bad chipped ecus aren't tuneable.

hondata is the way to go to get optimum tuning for the buck...

but still, those numbers could be a lot lower....even with vafc hack.....

T4eg

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