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Old 11-02-2014, 10:37 AM
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Work to get into the 9's.

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650, and only high 10's? We know you can dial that lower, let's see it!
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10's which are the the old 11's that were the old 12's everyday streetcar stuff.

This is a true street car, adding the necessary parts to safely go 9's is out of my interest. Honestly is not safe as is the only reasons I have are shitty excuses. I'm at a crossroads, jump in deeper or get out and start something new.
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Awesome power band. Is that the 5858 pretty much maxed out?
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Awesome power band. Is that the 5858 pretty much maxed out?
Yeah for sure, more boost made no more power and it beginning to taper off above 8000
Old 11-02-2014, 12:47 PM
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Happy I can help, my friend!

I say you throw a bigger turbo on that thing, throw some big tires on it, and come roll racing a couple times a year with me. It's a bunch of fun, the parts breakages are fewer, and you get to light the internet on fire when you beat supercharged Corvettes, some GTR's, and other big-power performance platforms.

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Originally Posted by Natural Aspirations
10's which are the the old 11's that were the old 12's everyday streetcar stuff.

This is a true street car, adding the necessary parts to safely go 9's is out of my interest. Honestly is not safe as is the only reasons I have are shitty excuses. I'm at a crossroads, jump in deeper or get out and start something new.
Toss some slicks on it, learn to drive on them, and you could be in the 9s...unless you're talking about the stuff organizations require. I'm not into drag (call me a touring snob), but I think scatter guards are required by most when you break under 10, and when do things like cages and chutes become mandatory?
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Technically he needs a cage already, trap speeds over 135mph, and a 9-sec license.
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Originally Posted by NotARacist
Toss some slicks on it
He already has slicks.
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The only tires I see ITT might be drag radials, but they don't look like true slicks...

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Technically he needs a cage already, trap speeds over 135mph, and a 9-sec license.
Good to know, I'll have to toss that in my list of things I now know
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hows the setup goin thus far. what did you gap your plugs to with that cpr kit
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I managed a whole 1200 miles before I parked it until spring, contemplating my next move. I'm so deeply into this it's almost too much to get out and start anything over again. I even went as far as to make a part out list but never quite had the ***** to post it for sale, sad fact is even if I parted it out I would be thousands of dollars behind the ball to start anything else.

If I recall the plugs are gapped to 0.020"
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Originally Posted by Natural Aspirations
I managed a whole 1200 miles before I parked it until spring, contemplating my next move. I'm so deeply into this it's almost too much to get out and start anything over again. I even went as far as to make a part out list but never quite had the ***** to post it for sale, sad fact is even if I parted it out I would be thousands of dollars behind the ball to start anything else.
Just keep it at a minimum. It's a super cool project/legacy/family heirloom.
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Solid results for sure. I like Derek's idea, of the roll racing. This thing would be a st00pid hwy killer for sure..

Alot to think about if you dont feel like putting a cage and what not in it..
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good **** man
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Instead of part out, trade it for another project. Alot of people are in the same shoes as you with perfectly fun project cars/toys for trade that know how many thousands they have in there cars aswell and would straight up trade for your complete well working turbo Honda theyve never had the pleasure of owning before.
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Yea I'm amazed he hasn't been booted from a track forlack of safety equipment. They don't play aroundat tracks here. My neighbor had an 800hp grand national with a 6pt cage, scatter shield, harness, etc but no chute. One night his ETs were so fast he had to let off half track to stay over. Eventually he got bored and the first run was warned, second was the boot.

I don't remember the exact limits for which type of safety gear and license but it's no joke.
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congrats


I completely understand the dilemma/crossroads your facing.
Rather than trying to go faster in drag racing, you could just make slight pivot and try road racing as well. Turn down the power to 400whp and have a blast. You can spend more on other parts of the car to make it faster & yet still keep it street friendly.
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Dan, we already went over this; you're buying a 62/64/67/whatever, and joining my FWD Turbo Honda Roll Racing Militia.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Moua
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I completely understand the dilemma/crossroads your facing.
Rather than trying to go faster in drag racing, you could just make slight pivot and try road racing as well. Turn down the power to 400whp and have a blast. You can spend more on other parts of the car to make it faster & yet still keep it street friendly.
The dilemma NA is facing is one of the reasons why I wont build a drag car. Youll always wanna go faster, build bigger, and pretty soon, your boisted daily is a gutted strip only car.

Road racing/autocross is awesome. If you wanna go faster, you have to learn how to drive faster. You cant just buy faster parts and expect to lap better times.

400hp, boost, and a killer suspension/brake combo is more fun.
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Turbo and related parts already sold.

Looking at a NB Miata later this week.
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Yea I'm amazed he hasn't been booted from a track forlack of safety equipment. They don't play aroundat tracks here. My neighbor had an 800hp grand national with a 6pt cage, scatter shield, harness, etc but no chute. One night his ETs were so fast he had to let off half track to stay over. Eventually he got bored and the first run was warned, second was the boot.

I don't remember the exact limits for which type of safety gear and license but it's no joke.
Scatter guards are sub-12, according to GE. According to some random website that sells chutes, they're required for >150 MPH runs, and duals for >200.

Skip the chutes, and give me a road course. I'll just use the track for my cooldown/slowdown
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Originally Posted by Natural Aspirations
Turbo and related parts already sold.

Looking at a NB Miata later this week.
you parted to car out.....?
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you parted to car out.....?

Working on it, LOL.

I had some friends who wanted some parts, the car still runs on some POS DC header I got for free.

I've lost all of my drive to continue on down this road, the most fun I've had with this car was with a simple B20 M62, more , more , more got me where I am at now. I miss the days of bending sheet metal in my drive way at the hopes of building a semi functional cold air box. Today kids think if you don't have the latest greatest it's not worth bothering, everyone is afraid to come in second place.

Honda-Tech has too much second hand knowledge that gets passed for gospel, the guys who were willing to help the growth have been pushed out by those who look to profit from it. That being said I completely understand the need for a business to stay in business, there is plenty of money to be made on quality products that work rather than mislead.


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