dornon13

http://www.andersonfordmotorsp....html

I was shown this by a mustang owner out of a 5.0L magazine looks interesting. thought i would throw this out there see what people think...is this similair to other methanol injection or do any of them use windshield washer fluid? I know this isnt new technology im just curious if anyone has used the windshield washer fluid.

splitime

I was talking to someone about meth/water injection the other day.... he was talking about a time when he tossed in windshield washer fluid instead of his 50/50 mix... and the car bogged. Basically the fluid was to much h2o and not enough meth/alcy mixed in.

dornon13

this one says it needs the stuff rated under 20deg to contain enough methanol

splitime

If the mix is closer to 50/50 than the normal fluids... it might work. From my understanding... 50/50 is close to an ideal mix, more water and it starts to become a steam cleaner.

dornon13

at the very top of that link it advertises methanol concentrate and instructs to use a 50/50 mixture with water so it seems as though they know about this..

s1ngle

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this setup is pretty cheap, i wonder what kind of pump that is? I keep hearing people say that small pumps similar to winshield squirter pumps wont do the job... but that one seems pretty small...

dornon13

i am pretty sure it works on boost/vacuum i dont think it uses a pump.

this is a link to the article from the magazine i found it in. it goes a little more in depth.

http://www.andersonfordmotorsp...n.htm

Boostage

No pump, it uses vaccum to draw the fuild in?

b16sedan

This is a shitty kit. Had one on a friends mustang for about a week before we realized how *** it was and got rid of it. You can't adjust how much meth your car sees, you have no control. On pump gas we could run 11 psi, with mr freeze we got about 14 before we saw knock. With a snow progressive kit you just dial in more meth till it gets rid of knock, he's on 18-19 no knock with a real pump driven kit.

s1ngle

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evidently it uses boost to push fluid out, although i'm still not really sure how that works. but if it does,thast really cool! no need to wire up a pump or anything. Clearly youd have less adjustability on this unit than if you had a pump, but it seems to work pretty well.

edit: I think I get how it works. it pushes in boosted air at the top, which puts pressure on all the fluid, and pushes the fluid out the bottom, and to your charge pipe. Does it come with a mist sprayer nozzle though? I'd think that would be important.

b16sedan

The boost pressure feeds into the top of the unit to pressurize the tank, and the impeller vacuum is used to suck liquid out of the tank as well. It feeds into the inlet side of your motor and uses your turbo/supercharger impeller to atomize it Pump based kits are not much more money, and are way better.

s1ngle

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haha, you beat me to it, just as i was editing it. Yeah i definitely dont like the idea of using my turbo to atomize water. where does it say that though? i can't find it. edit: nevermind i see it. its in one of the picture captions. This article doesnt give nearly as much detail as i'd like

i think i'll go with a pump system.

b16sedan

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by s1ngle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">haha, you beat me to it, just as i was editing it. Yeah i definitely dont like the idea of using my turbo to atomize water. where does it say that though? i can't find it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It doesn't, because they don't want you to know that's how it works

Boostage

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16sedan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The boost pressure feeds into the top of the unit to pressurize the tank, and the impeller vacuum is used to suck liquid out of the tank as well. It feeds into the inlet side of your motor and uses your turbo/supercharger impeller to atomize it Pump based kits are not much more money, and are way better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no man, the liquid isnt even close to the turbo, it is tapped into the upper charge pipe not far from he bov. typcially about 2-4 inches away from teh throttle body.

b16sedan

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

no man, the liquid isnt even close to the turbo, it is tapped into the upper charge pipe not far from he bov. typcially about 2-4 inches away from teh throttle body.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dude, I installed this kit, it has to go before the turbo or blower. Pump based kits inject post turbo. This kit has to be installed before the turbo because it has no pump to inject the fluid. Call AFM and ask, or go look on http://www.corral.net for unfo about it.

s1ngle

iTrader: (1)

hes right, it does use the turbo to atomize it. b16sedan, which kit do you recommend for use wiht a pump? which one is your friend using?

Boostage

well if you installed it I am sure you know for sure, did it not work out well for you?

b16sedan

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well if you installed it I am sure you know for sure, did it not work out well for you?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It worked and we got a few more pounds of boost out of it, but it didn't work half as good as a pump driven kit.

dornon13

its half the price of the snow kit but that snow kit really does look nice