manual timing? "tuning"
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manual timing? "tuning"
I found a part that would allow me to set timing in (+-)1 deg increments from stock. could something like that be used for tuning or would i still need to go with fill engine management?
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Re: manual timing? "tuning" (PrecisionH23a)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Full EMS ftw.
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Its not MSD but it is on a bike. the part is made by factory Pro
"This is the patented Factory Pro Adjusted Ignition rotor.
Patented for it's absolute 1 degree indexing ability - without trying to read inaccurate "hash" marks like other adjustable advancers AND the unique internal adj. screw - there are NO exposed screws to loosen and fall out inside the engine like ALL other adjustable ignition rotors!
(We aren't falling for the other adj. ign. rotor manufacturer's "Loc-Tite the adjustment screws so they don't fall out..." suggestion!"
msd btm </TD></TR></TABLE>
Its not MSD but it is on a bike. the part is made by factory Pro
"This is the patented Factory Pro Adjusted Ignition rotor.
Patented for it's absolute 1 degree indexing ability - without trying to read inaccurate "hash" marks like other adjustable advancers AND the unique internal adj. screw - there are NO exposed screws to loosen and fall out inside the engine like ALL other adjustable ignition rotors!
(We aren't falling for the other adj. ign. rotor manufacturer's "Loc-Tite the adjustment screws so they don't fall out..." suggestion!"
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Re: (93turbo16)
im not 100% sure on bikes timing setup, but i do know there isnt a diostro.
And for a bike that isnt turbo, i would say this and a commander would be all u need to get the max power out of ur bolt on upgrades.
Not a band aid.
And for a bike that isnt turbo, i would say this and a commander would be all u need to get the max power out of ur bolt on upgrades.
Not a band aid.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93supercoupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not 100% sure on bikes timing setup, but i do know there isnt a diostro.
And for a bike that isnt turbo, i would say this and a commander would be all u need to get the max power out of ur bolt on upgrades.
Not a band aid.</TD></TR></TABLE>
EDIT. I am retarded.
But I would still say a power comander (?) or something similar for tuning. The shop I use just got a bike dyno, so this is something i am just starting to get into but am less than knowledgable in.
Modified by 93turbo16 at 4:05 PM 2/2/2007
And for a bike that isnt turbo, i would say this and a commander would be all u need to get the max power out of ur bolt on upgrades.
Not a band aid.</TD></TR></TABLE>
EDIT. I am retarded.
But I would still say a power comander (?) or something similar for tuning. The shop I use just got a bike dyno, so this is something i am just starting to get into but am less than knowledgable in.
Modified by 93turbo16 at 4:05 PM 2/2/2007
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Re: (93turbo16)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93turbo16 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
EDIT. I am retarded.
But I would still say a power comander (?) or something similar for tuning. The shop I use just got a bike dyno, so this is something i am just starting to get into but am less than knowledgable in.
Modified by 93turbo16 at 4:05 PM 2/2/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>
OK so here it is, the bike is a 2003 CB919 its got a 10.8:1 CR which is kinda low for a street bike. I dont know how many of you remember the 900RR, this is the same engine from that bike but with a lower compression. Also, the 919 now has fuel injection and smaller cams which make it a bottom end beast.
A power commander is basically a SAFC that is tuned via USB port.
EDIT. I am retarded.
But I would still say a power comander (?) or something similar for tuning. The shop I use just got a bike dyno, so this is something i am just starting to get into but am less than knowledgable in.
Modified by 93turbo16 at 4:05 PM 2/2/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>
OK so here it is, the bike is a 2003 CB919 its got a 10.8:1 CR which is kinda low for a street bike. I dont know how many of you remember the 900RR, this is the same engine from that bike but with a lower compression. Also, the 919 now has fuel injection and smaller cams which make it a bottom end beast.
A power commander is basically a SAFC that is tuned via USB port.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 85 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
OK so here it is, the bike is a 2003 CB919 its got a 10.8:1 CR which is kinda low for a street bike. I dont know how many of you remember the 900RR, this is the same engine from that bike but with a lower compression. Also, the 919 now has fuel injection and smaller cams which make it a bottom end beast.
A power commander is basically a SAFC that is tuned via USB port.
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I have that on my rc51
OK so here it is, the bike is a 2003 CB919 its got a 10.8:1 CR which is kinda low for a street bike. I dont know how many of you remember the 900RR, this is the same engine from that bike but with a lower compression. Also, the 919 now has fuel injection and smaller cams which make it a bottom end beast.
A power commander is basically a SAFC that is tuned via USB port.
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I have that on my rc51
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So you guys think it would workout ok? how much does the timing get retarded in a tune? if this part allows me to go up to 10 deg would that be enough?
So you guys think it would workout ok? how much does the timing get retarded in a tune? if this part allows me to go up to 10 deg would that be enough?
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Rule of thumb .75 degree's per psi of boost. Fuel uses, bore size, etc all plays a factor though.
No, don't run that unit. On obd1 distributor's you can already adv/ret your base timing.
No, don't run that unit. On obd1 distributor's you can already adv/ret your base timing.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Rule of thumb .75 degree's per psi of boost. Fuel uses, bore size, etc all plays a factor though.
No, don't run that unit. On obd1 distributor's you can already adv/ret your base timing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ok, so what would be a good ECU to use? I am using individual throttle bodies and it is on a bike.
No, don't run that unit. On obd1 distributor's you can already adv/ret your base timing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ok, so what would be a good ECU to use? I am using individual throttle bodies and it is on a bike.
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Re: manual timing? "tuning" (85)
Well if this is for a bike and there is no question about FI, why is it in the FI section? I'd imagine you'd get more experienced opinions about this over there.
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Re: manual timing? "tuning" (PrecisionH23a)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought the pc3r had ignition control as well?</TD></TR></TABLE>
there is an extra box you can hook up that will let you do it but as far as i know they dont make it for my bike. at least not yet...
there is an extra box you can hook up that will let you do it but as far as i know they dont make it for my bike. at least not yet...
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