Hankish

hey H-T
Im about to boost my internally stock B16 Civic and have a bad 2- 3 and 3-4 grind in my CABLE B16 trans...
My question in what is what trans to go with next. This is a DD/ weekend racer. If I can make 300 hp I will be a happy camper. (arp bolts, CTR cams, intake mani and larger TB. Turbonetics kit w/ T3To4e 57 trim. All elase stock internal B16)
I know the shorter B16 and GSR gears are better for exceleration, but is it worth using the longer and much less expensive LS cable trans with boost?
Where will the LS put me in the RPM/ VTEC range after shifts? Will it be a dog and put me in too low of an RPM an too far out of VTEC, or will it better to build boost from the lower RPM?
It has been my experiance that ALL the older cable B Trans are prone to crapping out/ grinding gears, so is it worth going with a more expensive newer hydro GSR trans? I will need a different clutch set up w/ the Hydro trans correct?
Im just looking for some input from people that have tried these different set up's.
Thanks guys...
Hank

Tchleung

For the power you are making, I would stick to a B16 or GSR trans.

vti2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tchleung &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For the power you are making, I would stick to a B16 or GSR trans. </TD></TR></TABLE>

LS would only recomend if you put 500+ on the street.

93CX

B16 / ITR gearing FTW

SOHC_MShue

your b16 would suck with a ls tranny

HondaCivicSiR1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your b16 would suck with a ls tranny</TD></TR></TABLE>for sure i had a ls cable trans on my gsr motor and i hated it so i got a b16a tranny.just keep your b16a tranny just get it rebuilt

EG6 ON STANDS!

b16 with gsr tranny, gears arent too short and not too long better on gas than a b16 tranny

whiteef8

i personally have an LS transmission on an SC61 ls/vtec with only about 320-350whp. it seems to be geared just a LITTLE, TEENY bit long for my setup, only because by the time im done spinning 2nd/3rd gear, it somewhat bogs in 4th (probably more driver error than anything, lol) . i dont really know what im getting at, because everyones setup is different (ie. tires, wheels, horsepower goals etc. etc.) but if i could go back and do it again, i would probably try and get a GSR trans, possibly with an LSD.

A.E Motoring

iTrader: (1)

i have a b16, very short geared, raced on the street before on street tires, i cant do it, i run out of gear before i even reach half track, but on the race track with big slicks its a different story, i finish the 1/4 in 4th

blackeg

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by whiteef8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i personally have an LS transmission on an SC61 ls/vtec with only about 320-350whp. it seems to be geared just a LITTLE, TEENY bit long for my setup, only because by the time im done spinning 2nd/3rd gear, it somewhat bogs in 4th (probably more driver error than anything, lol) . i dont really know what im getting at, because everyones setup is different (ie. tires, wheels, horsepower goals etc. etc.) but if i could go back and do it again, i would probably try and get a GSR trans, possibly with an LSD. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i ran the same exact thing last year, ls trans and about 330whp. i did love the long 4th gear for highway pulls though....

to the op, i think that a gsr transmission will be the best of both worlds, gears are still close so you dont fall too low in the rpms and loose spool, but you can get a little more speed out of it. it sucks driving a car that goes 0-100 pretty fast, but doesnt go anything above that(give or take of course)

DC4KiD

iTrader: (4)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by weak16DA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16 with gsr tranny, gears arent too short and not too long better on gas than a b16 tranny </TD></TR></TABLE>
Agreed.

da_dude

GSR hands down. Not too long and not too short.

97CWITR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turb20_vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GSR hands down. Not too long and not too short.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the perfect compromise! best of both worlds

Hankish

Thanks for all the input guys.
I really lucked out and picked up a cable GSR trans today!
Hank