Ls-Turbo Vs. Gsr-Turbo
01-31-2006, 02:38 PM
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Re: (Integra94)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Integra94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LS</TD></TR></TABLE>
the gsr will be much faster due to the head design ports and cams...Ls heads dont flow worth a ****....
the gsr will be much faster due to the head design ports and cams...Ls heads dont flow worth a ****....
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01-31-2006, 03:47 PM
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^^^ 
it would depend, ive never seen one race another but from what i gather...
considering keeping stock internals, a 300whp gsr puts out somewhere in the low 200 lbs of torque, while a 300whp ls puts out about 255-280lbs of torque.
now on paper the numbers look good, but the powerbands are completely different. not sure which ones would be better/faster.
it would depend, ive never seen one race another but from what i gather...
considering keeping stock internals, a 300whp gsr puts out somewhere in the low 200 lbs of torque, while a 300whp ls puts out about 255-280lbs of torque.
now on paper the numbers look good, but the powerbands are completely different. not sure which ones would be better/faster.
01-31-2006, 04:11 PM
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Hands down the GSR would smoke an LS easily with the same setup. The GSR will make a **** ton more power. As somebody said in a previous post the LS head is ****, and the tranny is just as bad. The LS has weaker rods compared to the GSR also.
01-31-2006, 04:22 PM
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Re: Ls-Turbo Vs. Gsr-Turbo (playalistic2)
LS is cheaper to boost, and cheaper to fix. GSR will be faster for sure, and takes less supporting upgrades to push more power. Both engines internally stock could handle decent power, but this all lies within tuning. Both engines can safely run at 300+ WHP, but both can also blow up at 200WHP depending on tune.
01-31-2006, 06:34 PM
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Re: Ls-Turbo Vs. Gsr-Turbo (beerbongskickass)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerbongskickass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hands down the GSR would smoke an LS easily with the same setup. The GSR will make a **** ton more power. As somebody said in a previous post the LS head is ****, and the tranny is just as bad. The LS has weaker rods compared to the GSR also.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats not true. explain to me how a stock gsr turbo with the same setup as a ls turbo would make a **** ton of more power. what exactly is a **** ton anyways? yea you might get some more hp but your still not gonna have as much tq. if you put a vtec head on it or even build the ls head its gonna make more hp. and be faster than the gsr not to mention still cheaper. also the ls tranny is good for boost i know alot of people that switched back to the ls tranny from a gsr. its all in the setup as far as trannys go. my friend went 11.7 on a stock ls turbo on street tires in his hatch. i saw a gsr turbo that same day in a hatch go like 12.8 or something. it all depends on the driver too. there is just way to many things to consider. i say get the ls turbo cause if you blow it its 300 bucks and 2 hrs of work
thats not true. explain to me how a stock gsr turbo with the same setup as a ls turbo would make a **** ton of more power. what exactly is a **** ton anyways? yea you might get some more hp but your still not gonna have as much tq. if you put a vtec head on it or even build the ls head its gonna make more hp. and be faster than the gsr not to mention still cheaper. also the ls tranny is good for boost i know alot of people that switched back to the ls tranny from a gsr. its all in the setup as far as trannys go. my friend went 11.7 on a stock ls turbo on street tires in his hatch. i saw a gsr turbo that same day in a hatch go like 12.8 or something. it all depends on the driver too. there is just way to many things to consider. i say get the ls turbo cause if you blow it its 300 bucks and 2 hrs of work
01-31-2006, 07:00 PM
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Every Ls owner is going to say its faster then a GSR ...which is complete horseshit 
wether they like it or not
the gsr head owns the LS head in everyway possible and in a stock motor the 7k rpm rev limit owns your LS
they are a cheaper for a reason....theres nothign wrong with the block but the head is crappy
wether they like it or notthe gsr head owns the LS head in everyway possible and in a stock motor the 7k rpm rev limit owns your LS
they are a cheaper for a reason....theres nothign wrong with the block but the head is crappy
01-31-2006, 07:12 PM
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i just want to know where you guys saying the ls would be faster considering all things being the same but the engine are getting your information. We need to have a honda-tech.com and a honda-noob.com and you have to pass a test to get to the tech part
01-31-2006, 07:36 PM
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Re: (95GSRTT)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95GSRTT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just want to know where you guys saying the ls would be faster considering all things being the same but the engine are getting your information. We need to have a honda-tech.com and a honda-noob.com and you have to pass a test to get to the tech part </TD></TR></TABLE>
lol, i can see it now.
</TD></TR></TABLE>lol, i can see it now.
01-31-2006, 09:21 PM
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Have you not seen a stock LS dyno sheet? Torque drops like a fatman for a crumb after 4500rpm. The GSR head is better over, vtec lobes mean that the low cam will equalize the longer stroke of the LS and high cam will run the LS into the ground, the gsr has a crank girdle (albeit not a big deal unless you rev very high), rods are much thicker on a gsr, better oil/water pump, intake manifold made for overall power vs LS's low/midrange.
It has to do more with price. Lets face it, anyone who has been restricted to stock motors will pick regaurdless of price, but the rest will look at the price of stock X vs built Y. A stock gsr would have problems dominating a LS that has same turbo kit along with the price difference spent in forged internals.
It has to do more with price. Lets face it, anyone who has been restricted to stock motors will pick regaurdless of price, but the rest will look at the price of stock X vs built Y. A stock gsr would have problems dominating a LS that has same turbo kit along with the price difference spent in forged internals.
01-31-2006, 10:56 PM
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Re: Ls-Turbo Vs. Gsr-Turbo (xfrankx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xfrankx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
thats not true. explain to me how a stock gsr turbo with the same setup as a ls turbo would make a **** ton of more power. what exactly is a **** ton anyways? yea you might get some more hp but your still not gonna have as much tq. if you put a vtec head on it or even build the ls head its gonna make more hp. and be faster than the gsr not to mention still cheaper. also the ls tranny is good for boost i know alot of people that switched back to the ls tranny from a gsr. its all in the setup as far as trannys go. my friend went 11.7 on a stock ls turbo on street tires in his hatch. i saw a gsr turbo that same day in a hatch go like 12.8 or something. it all depends on the driver too. there is just way to many things to consider. i say get the ls turbo cause if you blow it its 300 bucks and 2 hrs of work </TD></TR></TABLE>
The GSR has more compression, better head, better cams, better tranny (shorter gears make you accelerate faster), better everything. That's why when you slap a vtec head on an LS block you gain about 50whp. Were not talking about building motors or price and I don't give a **** what your friend did, that means nothing. The B18c1/5 is probably the best all around motor honda ever made.
thats not true. explain to me how a stock gsr turbo with the same setup as a ls turbo would make a **** ton of more power. what exactly is a **** ton anyways? yea you might get some more hp but your still not gonna have as much tq. if you put a vtec head on it or even build the ls head its gonna make more hp. and be faster than the gsr not to mention still cheaper. also the ls tranny is good for boost i know alot of people that switched back to the ls tranny from a gsr. its all in the setup as far as trannys go. my friend went 11.7 on a stock ls turbo on street tires in his hatch. i saw a gsr turbo that same day in a hatch go like 12.8 or something. it all depends on the driver too. there is just way to many things to consider. i say get the ls turbo cause if you blow it its 300 bucks and 2 hrs of work
</TD></TR></TABLE>The GSR has more compression, better head, better cams, better tranny (shorter gears make you accelerate faster), better everything. That's why when you slap a vtec head on an LS block you gain about 50whp. Were not talking about building motors or price and I don't give a **** what your friend did, that means nothing. The B18c1/5 is probably the best all around motor honda ever made.
01-31-2006, 10:57 PM
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Re: Ls-Turbo Vs. Gsr-Turbo (playalistic2)
Can none of you guys read? Here is the question. I will make it bold so you don't miss it again.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by playalistic2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea I was wondering which would be faster if they both have stock internals and the same turbo setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The answer is.. GSR.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by playalistic2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea I was wondering which would be faster if they both have stock internals and the same turbo setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The answer is.. GSR.
End of thread.
01-31-2006, 11:02 PM
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GSR hands down...But it also comes to tuning. You can both have the same motor but if your local shop sucks ***** at tuning you will be back where you started.
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Re: (playalistic2)
in stock form the only good thing about an ls is the torque they make other then that they arent all the hype ,but changed around to a ls/vtec then you got a winning combo.. but if you want more flow to about 7600 rpms,then the gsr is what your looking for .
