LS turbo dyno run (Video)
12-20-2003, 09:14 PM
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LS turbo dyno run (Video)
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Stock LS @ 16 psi. Thanks to Jason (stoopid) for the tune. At 11.-11.5 psi the car put down 255 whp and 222 ft/lbs tq. I previously had the car tuned by shawn church at Church Automotive Testing. On the dynopack the car put down 289 whp and 222 ft/lbs tq @ 12 psi. I remember shawn telling me that the dynapack tends to read about 10% higher than a dynojet. I was real happy with the hp I picked up by turning the boost 4.5 psi. I picked up 57 whp on 4.5 psi.
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Stock LS @ 16 psi. Thanks to Jason (stoopid) for the tune. At 11.-11.5 psi the car put down 255 whp and 222 ft/lbs tq. I previously had the car tuned by shawn church at Church Automotive Testing. On the dynopack the car put down 289 whp and 222 ft/lbs tq @ 12 psi. I remember shawn telling me that the dynapack tends to read about 10% higher than a dynojet. I was real happy with the hp I picked up by turning the boost 4.5 psi. I picked up 57 whp on 4.5 psi.
12-20-2003, 09:23 PM
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Re: LS turbo dyno run (94gsr4dr)
Stock LS engine
hondata s100 w/boost
440cc injectors, stock intank fuel pump, nos high flow external fuel pump
t3/t4 garret turbo 57 trim
2.5 inch dp flared to 3 inches with full 3 inch exhaust
custom ic piping with blitz bov
hondata s100 w/boost
440cc injectors, stock intank fuel pump, nos high flow external fuel pump
t3/t4 garret turbo 57 trim
2.5 inch dp flared to 3 inches with full 3 inch exhaust
custom ic piping with blitz bov
12-20-2003, 09:25 PM
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Re: LS turbo dyno run (sneakypete)
the numbers are solid, but i can't help but feel that 16 pounds you should make a little more then 312 even on a realitivly small turbo, is it t3/to4e or t3/to4b?
12-20-2003, 09:37 PM
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Re: LS turbo dyno run (94gsr4dr)
This is a t3/to4e. You have to remember this was done on an LS engine. The engine has 123,000 miles and the turbo is 4 years old. I'm sure if slapped on a precesion turbo I could break the 300 whp on a couple less psi. At 12 psi the car is putting down a little over 260 whp. Thats about right for an LS at that psi. I think people are just getting use to seeing people lay down 300 whp on 7-10 psi on a gsr motor. Thanks for the compliments.
P.S. This was done on a revhard cast iron manifold.
P.S. This was done on a revhard cast iron manifold.
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12-21-2003, 05:51 PM
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Re: LS turbo dyno run (SiRkid)
How much more power could I pick up by porting the head and also by upgrading the valvetrain to withstand 8500 rpm. Please don't tell me to, "yO slap a vtec head".
12-21-2003, 06:09 PM
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Re: LS turbo dyno run (sneakypete)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sneakypete »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much more power could I pick up by porting the head and also by upgrading the valvetrain to withstand 8500 rpm. Please don't tell me to, "yO slap a vtec head". </TD></TR></TABLE>
Alot
Porting is nice, but $$.
"I remember shawn telling me that the dynapack tends to read about 10% higher than a dynojet"
More like 10whp, not 10%. It's because the weight of the wheel is not in the run.
Good #'s.
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Porting is nice, but $$.
"I remember shawn telling me that the dynapack tends to read about 10% higher than a dynojet"
More like 10whp, not 10%. It's because the weight of the wheel is not in the run.
Good #'s.
12-21-2003, 08:20 PM
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Re: LS turbo dyno run (sneakypete)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sneakypete »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes it was.</TD></TR></TABLE>
why not 4th?
why not 4th?
12-21-2003, 08:23 PM
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Re: LS turbo dyno run (FredoSP)
I don't know, you'd have to ask Jason that. I thought they always did 3rd pulls on the dyno. I know the high hp guys do 4th gear pulls. Would the car have made more power in 4th gear than 3rd?
12-22-2003, 12:26 AM
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Re: LS turbo dyno run (sneakypete)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sneakypete »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is a t3/to4e. You have to remember this was done on an LS engine. The engine has 123,000 miles and the turbo is 4 years old. I'm sure if slapped on a precesion turbo I could break the 300 whp on a couple less psi. At 12 psi the car is putting down a little over 260 whp. Thats about right for an LS at that psi. I think people are just getting use to seeing people lay down 300 whp on 7-10 psi on a gsr motor. Thanks for the compliments.
P.S. This was done on a revhard cast iron manifold.</TD></TR></TABLE>
not to take away anything from u but i made 300/270 on the same exact turbo (altho mine was brand new) on a 80,000 mile LS motor with a maxrev kit @ 12.5 psi on a clayton dyno
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P.S. This was done on a revhard cast iron manifold.</TD></TR></TABLE>
not to take away anything from u but i made 300/270 on the same exact turbo (altho mine was brand new) on a 80,000 mile LS motor with a maxrev kit @ 12.5 psi on a clayton dyno
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12-22-2003, 05:41 AM
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Re: LS turbo dyno run (sneakypete)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sneakypete »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.we-todd-did-racing....D.jpg
Stock LS @ 16 psi. Thanks to Jason (stoopid) for the tune. At 11.-11.5 psi the car put down 255 whp and 222 ft/lbs tq. I previously had the car tuned by shawn church at Church Automotive Testing. On the dynopack the car put down 289 whp and 222 ft/lbs tq @ 12 psi. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Okay maybe im still half asleep and its 8:30 monday but your post doesnt make any sense
First it says 16 psi, then it says 11-11.5 psi, but Im thinking maybe this was your air fuel i dont know. Then it says you made 255/222 on either the 16 or 11-11-5 psi. Then you say previously say you made 289/222 from Churches Tune on 12 psi. Well from another response it looks like you may have made 312 whp on the 16 psi, I guess i need to watch the video
Would you mind clearing it up.
Stock LS @ 16 psi. Thanks to Jason (stoopid) for the tune. At 11.-11.5 psi the car put down 255 whp and 222 ft/lbs tq. I previously had the car tuned by shawn church at Church Automotive Testing. On the dynopack the car put down 289 whp and 222 ft/lbs tq @ 12 psi. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Okay maybe im still half asleep and its 8:30 monday but your post doesnt make any sense
First it says 16 psi, then it says 11-11.5 psi, but Im thinking maybe this was your air fuel i dont know. Then it says you made 255/222 on either the 16 or 11-11-5 psi. Then you say previously say you made 289/222 from Churches Tune on 12 psi. Well from another response it looks like you may have made 312 whp on the 16 psi, I guess i need to watch the video
Would you mind clearing it up.
12-22-2003, 05:41 AM
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Re: LS turbo dyno run (Short Round)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Short Round »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
not to take away anything from u but i made 300/270 on the same exact turbo (altho mine was brand new) on a 80,000 mile LS motor with a maxrev kit @ 12.5 psi on a clayton dyno
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good #'s. Not to take anything from you but his car has 125,000 miles on the motor. And that turbo kit is 4 years old. So to me I think those are really good #'s considering the mileage on the car and how old the turbo is.
not to take away anything from u but i made 300/270 on the same exact turbo (altho mine was brand new) on a 80,000 mile LS motor with a maxrev kit @ 12.5 psi on a clayton dyno
shrug</TD></TR></TABLE>
good #'s. Not to take anything from you but his car has 125,000 miles on the motor. And that turbo kit is 4 years old. So to me I think those are really good #'s considering the mileage on the car and how old the turbo is.
12-22-2003, 05:45 AM
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Re: LS turbo dyno run (quikB18B)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by quikB18B »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Okay maybe im still half asleep and its 8:30 monday but your post doesnt make any sense
First it says 16 psi, then it says 11-11.5 psi, but Im thinking maybe this was your air fuel i dont know. Then it says you made 255/222 on either the 16 or 11-11-5 psi. Then you say previously say you made 289/222 from Churches Tune on 12 psi.
Is it me or is this not making nay sense, looks like you lost power, but would you mind clearing it up.</TD></TR></TABLE>
when Shawn tuned the car at 12psi he made 289/222. When this other guy tuned it 2 weeks ago he made at 16psi 310/not sure what torque he made. But I am sure he will explain it more. That should clear it more up for you bro.
Okay maybe im still half asleep and its 8:30 monday but your post doesnt make any sense
First it says 16 psi, then it says 11-11.5 psi, but Im thinking maybe this was your air fuel i dont know. Then it says you made 255/222 on either the 16 or 11-11-5 psi. Then you say previously say you made 289/222 from Churches Tune on 12 psi.
Is it me or is this not making nay sense, looks like you lost power, but would you mind clearing it up.</TD></TR></TABLE>
when Shawn tuned the car at 12psi he made 289/222. When this other guy tuned it 2 weeks ago he made at 16psi 310/not sure what torque he made. But I am sure he will explain it more. That should clear it more up for you bro.
12-22-2003, 01:47 PM
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Re: LS turbo dyno run (RedTegLS)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RedTegLS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So 4 more PSI only made 21 WHP? I would say the previous tune was better. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Let me clear things up for everyone. I had the car tuned by shaun over at church automotive 4 months ago. The car put down 289 whp & 222 ft/lbs tq. @ 12psi on the dynopack dynometer. I then had the car tuned by Jason (stoopid) on Dec. 12 on a dynojet dyno. I wanted to see the difference in hp between the two dynos. So I had Jason make a baseline pull @ 12psi and the car put down 255 whp & 222 ft/lbs tq. However, the boost only went to 11-11.5 psi, not the full 12psi. So at 12psi the car is putting down somewhere in the low 260's on a dynojet dyno. Now, that's about a 30 whp difference between the two dynos. From what I have read thats about right. The dynopack tends to read a little higher. Check this link out http://turbomagazine.com/tech/0306tur_dynodash
The dynojet dyno they had was the Windows based version and it was only a month or two old. So after the baseline run of 255 whp Jason turned the boost up a few clicks on my greddy tvvc manual boost controller. He then did another pull with the boost going up only 1 psi and the car made 268 whp & 235 ft/lbs tq. Jason then told me lets go up a couple of more psi. So I gave the boost controller 10 more clicks and the boost went up 16 psi. At 16 psi the car made 312 whp and 264 ft/lbs tq. Hope this clears things up.
Cliff notes: 4 months ago car gets tuned by shaun at church automotive, car makes 289 & 222 ft/lbs tq @ 12 psi on a dynapack dyno
Then last week car gets tuned for more boost, first baseline pull on the dynojet the car makes 255 whp & 222 ft/lbs tq @ 11-11.5 psi, turn boost up 1 psi and the car puts out 268 whp & 235 ft/lbs tq, then at 16 psi the car put down 312 whp & 264 ft/lbs tq
Let me clear things up for everyone. I had the car tuned by shaun over at church automotive 4 months ago. The car put down 289 whp & 222 ft/lbs tq. @ 12psi on the dynopack dynometer. I then had the car tuned by Jason (stoopid) on Dec. 12 on a dynojet dyno. I wanted to see the difference in hp between the two dynos. So I had Jason make a baseline pull @ 12psi and the car put down 255 whp & 222 ft/lbs tq. However, the boost only went to 11-11.5 psi, not the full 12psi. So at 12psi the car is putting down somewhere in the low 260's on a dynojet dyno. Now, that's about a 30 whp difference between the two dynos. From what I have read thats about right. The dynopack tends to read a little higher. Check this link out http://turbomagazine.com/tech/0306tur_dynodash
The dynojet dyno they had was the Windows based version and it was only a month or two old. So after the baseline run of 255 whp Jason turned the boost up a few clicks on my greddy tvvc manual boost controller. He then did another pull with the boost going up only 1 psi and the car made 268 whp & 235 ft/lbs tq. Jason then told me lets go up a couple of more psi. So I gave the boost controller 10 more clicks and the boost went up 16 psi. At 16 psi the car made 312 whp and 264 ft/lbs tq. Hope this clears things up.
Cliff notes: 4 months ago car gets tuned by shaun at church automotive, car makes 289 & 222 ft/lbs tq @ 12 psi on a dynapack dyno
Then last week car gets tuned for more boost, first baseline pull on the dynojet the car makes 255 whp & 222 ft/lbs tq @ 11-11.5 psi, turn boost up 1 psi and the car puts out 268 whp & 235 ft/lbs tq, then at 16 psi the car put down 312 whp & 264 ft/lbs tq
12-22-2003, 01:58 PM
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Re: LS turbo dyno run (Short Round)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Short Round »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
not to take away anything from u but i made 300/270 on the same exact turbo (altho mine was brand new) on a 80,000 mile LS motor with a maxrev kit @ 12.5 psi on a clayton dyno
shrug</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just to let you know the Clayton dyno reads much higher then the dynojet. Check this link out http://turbomagazine.com/tech/0306tur_dynodash/. Give it a little time to load. You'll see that 350z put out 265 whp on the clayton dyno and only 235 whp on the dynojet.
not to take away anything from u but i made 300/270 on the same exact turbo (altho mine was brand new) on a 80,000 mile LS motor with a maxrev kit @ 12.5 psi on a clayton dyno
shrug</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just to let you know the Clayton dyno reads much higher then the dynojet. Check this link out http://turbomagazine.com/tech/0306tur_dynodash/. Give it a little time to load. You'll see that 350z put out 265 whp on the clayton dyno and only 235 whp on the dynojet.
12-22-2003, 02:01 PM
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Re: LS turbo dyno run (sneakypete)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sneakypete »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Let me clear things up for everyone. I had the car tuned by shaun over at church automotive 4 months ago. The car put down 289 whp & 222 ft/lbs tq. @ 12psi on the dynopack dynometer. I then had the car tuned by Jason (stoopid) on Dec. 12 on a dynojet dyno. I wanted to see the difference in hp between the two dynos. So I had Jason make a baseline pull @ 12psi and the car put down 255 whp & 222 ft/lbs tq. However, the boost only went to 11-11.5 psi, not the full 12psi. So at 12psi the car is putting down somewhere in the low 260's on a dynojet dyno. Now, that's about a 30 whp difference between the two dynos. From what I have read thats about right. The dynopack tends to read a little higher. Check this link out http://turbomagazine.com/tech/0306tur_dynodash
The dynojet dyno they had was the Windows based version and it was only a month or two old. So after the baseline run of 255 whp Jason turned the boost up a few clicks on my greddy tvvc manual boost controller. He then did another pull with the boost going up only 1 psi and the car made 268 whp & 235 ft/lbs tq. Jason then told me lets go up a couple of more psi. So I gave the boost controller 10 more clicks and the boost went up 16 psi. At 16 psi the car made 312 whp and 264 ft/lbs tq. Hope this clears things up.
Cliff notes: 4 months ago car gets tuned by shaun at church automotive, car makes 289 & 222 ft/lbs tq @ 12 psi on a dynapack dyno
Then last week car gets tuned for more boost, first baseline pull on the dynojet the car makes 255 whp & 222 ft/lbs tq @ 11-11.5 psi, turn boost up 1 psi and the car puts out 268 whp & 235 ft/lbs tq, then at 16 psi the car put down 312 whp & 264 ft/lbs tq
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So 289 fwhp @12psi is 24hp per psi. At 255fwhp @ 11psi is 23hp per psi. So 255+1psi (23hp)is 278fwhp(dynojet) vs the 289(dynopack). Sounds about right!
Let me clear things up for everyone. I had the car tuned by shaun over at church automotive 4 months ago. The car put down 289 whp & 222 ft/lbs tq. @ 12psi on the dynopack dynometer. I then had the car tuned by Jason (stoopid) on Dec. 12 on a dynojet dyno. I wanted to see the difference in hp between the two dynos. So I had Jason make a baseline pull @ 12psi and the car put down 255 whp & 222 ft/lbs tq. However, the boost only went to 11-11.5 psi, not the full 12psi. So at 12psi the car is putting down somewhere in the low 260's on a dynojet dyno. Now, that's about a 30 whp difference between the two dynos. From what I have read thats about right. The dynopack tends to read a little higher. Check this link out http://turbomagazine.com/tech/0306tur_dynodash
The dynojet dyno they had was the Windows based version and it was only a month or two old. So after the baseline run of 255 whp Jason turned the boost up a few clicks on my greddy tvvc manual boost controller. He then did another pull with the boost going up only 1 psi and the car made 268 whp & 235 ft/lbs tq. Jason then told me lets go up a couple of more psi. So I gave the boost controller 10 more clicks and the boost went up 16 psi. At 16 psi the car made 312 whp and 264 ft/lbs tq. Hope this clears things up.
Cliff notes: 4 months ago car gets tuned by shaun at church automotive, car makes 289 & 222 ft/lbs tq @ 12 psi on a dynapack dyno
Then last week car gets tuned for more boost, first baseline pull on the dynojet the car makes 255 whp & 222 ft/lbs tq @ 11-11.5 psi, turn boost up 1 psi and the car puts out 268 whp & 235 ft/lbs tq, then at 16 psi the car put down 312 whp & 264 ft/lbs tq
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So 289 fwhp @12psi is 24hp per psi. At 255fwhp @ 11psi is 23hp per psi. So 255+1psi (23hp)is 278fwhp(dynojet) vs the 289(dynopack). Sounds about right!
12-22-2003, 02:09 PM
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Re: LS turbo dyno run (Reilly)
255 whp + 1 psi gave me 13 whp (268 whp). I picked up 57 whp on 4.5 psi (on the dyonjet). I went from 11.5 psi to 16 psi.
12-22-2003, 02:13 PM
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at 12 psi I think he could've put down 300whp. But then why run on the rugged edge. Also most of the people that run on the rugged edge also blow the motor later down the road. It's better to be conservative.