LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI?
05-31-2004, 06:34 PM
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LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI?
The setup i'm trying to make is a D16A6 with a Z6 head. I want some rods that wont break at 12-13psi (T3 Super60) with out selling my left nut to buy some. I found a set of B18B rods for cheep that i want to pick up if i can buy pistons that have a 21mm wrist pin but a 75mm bore with a low enough comp. for a turbo. If i get some aftermarket ones how much will they cost? I dont have alot of $$$ to spend on this build. Thanks for the help 
05-31-2004, 06:36 PM
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Re: LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI? (Sideout)
BTW can i get some stockers machined to use 21mm wrist pins or is it not worth it?
edit: The rods
edit: The rods
05-31-2004, 09:31 PM
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Re: LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI? (Sideout)
search . . . I have seena write up on this about using LS Rods & Z6 pistons, you need to get these bushings from crower. The rods, machine work, bushings etc . . . all came out to a total of like $175 or something like that and is good for like around 12-13psi i'lls ee if I can find the thread again.
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Re: LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI? (Vtec92Civic)
awsome!!! that just made my day, i'll start searching some more (only found somwthing about using the PDN pistons which are wayyy to high comperssion)
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Re: LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI? (Sideout)
I started to look into this when I found out eagle made titanium h beams for the b18a/b.
You need to mill .0215 off of each side of the big end so it will fit the crank. And you need to rebush the small end to accept a 19mm wrist pin.
From what ive read you have to use a piston that uses a floating style wrist pin. No oem press fit.
From what I remember It should be around but not more than 100 bucks to get it all done.
You need to mill .0215 off of each side of the big end so it will fit the crank. And you need to rebush the small end to accept a 19mm wrist pin.
From what ive read you have to use a piston that uses a floating style wrist pin. No oem press fit.
From what I remember It should be around but not more than 100 bucks to get it all done.
05-31-2004, 11:29 PM
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Re: LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI? (Sideout)
hey those are my rods im selling on ebay. weird. if u got any questions let me know. the green background is my pool table 
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Re: LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI? (98B00STED)
Yeah, talk to Kerry Novak at Crower, kerry at crower.com. $10 per bush, you have to provide him with measurements, and they can only be used with floating wrist pins. Aftermarket pistons, stunna, and it's cheaper for a set of Eagles.
Frankly, I've run stock D16 rods at 14 psi for short stints. It's borderline, but the ones that die quick are manufacturing faults or victims of poor tuning.
Frankly, I've run stock D16 rods at 14 psi for short stints. It's borderline, but the ones that die quick are manufacturing faults or victims of poor tuning.
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Re: LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI? (J. Davis)
you can also use suzuki pistons, which are floating, not forged, but 8.5:1... thats my setup anyways, ls rods/arp/suzuki pistons/hasting rings
06-01-2004, 10:48 AM
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Re: LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI? (DewMota)
not ******* cus i got the same pistons and i'm debating what rods to use but now you got a 25psi capable piston mated to a 14-15 psi capable rod 
06-01-2004, 11:47 AM
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Re: LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI? (ixiblindixi)
woh woh woh, suzuki pistons!?! wow this is a new one to me 
so ok, i part time at a machine shop so the machining is no prob, now what mesurement should i give crower? i'm debating on finding a cheep set of pistons that have floating pins, anyone got some?
so ok, i part time at a machine shop so the machining is no prob, now what mesurement should i give crower? i'm debating on finding a cheep set of pistons that have floating pins, anyone got some?
06-01-2004, 11:57 AM
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Re: LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI? (Sideout)
You should check my thread about my setup ..I am using Suzuki Vitara pistons.
If you need a set, let me know.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sideout »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">woh woh woh, suzuki pistons!?! wow this is a new one to me so ok, i part time at a machine shop so the machining is no prob, now what mesurement should i give crower? i'm debating on finding a cheep set of pistons that have floating pins, anyone got some? </TD></TR></TABLE>
If you need a set, let me know.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sideout »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">woh woh woh, suzuki pistons!?! wow this is a new one to me
so ok, i part time at a machine shop so the machining is no prob, now what mesurement should i give crower? i'm debating on finding a cheep set of pistons that have floating pins, anyone got some? </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI? (fjt)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fjt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You should check my thread about my setup ..I am using Suzuki Vitara pistons.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I know they use the Vitara pistons to drop CR for turbo use in the G13B. Veddy innarresting!
How did the valve reliefs clay out when you assembled the engine?
I know they use the Vitara pistons to drop CR for turbo use in the G13B. Veddy innarresting!
How did the valve reliefs clay out when you assembled the engine?
06-01-2004, 12:37 PM
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Re: LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI? (J. Davis)
It was not necesary to clay cause there was enough clearance. The piston is slightly shorter than the OEM Honda piston so it doesnt comes up flush to the top of the sleeve, added to that is that the top of the piston is not flat, it has a little "bowl" in the center.
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Re: LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI? (J. Davis)
so ok vitera pistons, where can i pick up a set? and can i get them in .10mm over?
06-01-2004, 12:54 PM
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Re: LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI? (J. Davis)
I'm probably gonna order up a set of fjt's pistons... sounds great in combo with some LS rods.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DewMota »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can also use suzuki pistons, which are floating, not forged, but 8.5:1... thats my setup anyways, ls rods/arp/suzuki pistons/hasting rings</TD></TR></TABLE>
how much boost are you looking at running on your combo, becuase I'm looking to do the same...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DewMota »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can also use suzuki pistons, which are floating, not forged, but 8.5:1... thats my setup anyways, ls rods/arp/suzuki pistons/hasting rings</TD></TR></TABLE>
how much boost are you looking at running on your combo, becuase I'm looking to do the same...
06-01-2004, 01:11 PM
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Re: LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI? (MiKeAhOwSkI)
my setup is gonna be the exact same LS/pg6, ARP, Suzuki, and Hasting and i plan on boosting 15-16 at the track and 7-10 on the street on a near stock bottom end.
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Re: LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI? (J. Davis)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J. Davis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just checked fjt's thread... you need to, too.</TD></TR></TABLE>gotya, just posted there
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Re: LS Rods on D16, what pistons for FI? (Sideout)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sideout »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BTW can i get some stockers machined to use 21mm wrist pins or is it not worth it?
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