yellowmonkeyboy

just wondering if gsr rods would also work in a D series like ls rods do?

Turbo E

personally if you were to open up a block, id just as soon put in crowers or the like.

edit: sorry i don't know if gsr's will fit.

ATS*Mark

i dont ever understand why people are willing to tear their block appart for 2 or 3 extra psi....... throw eagles in there.

yellowmonkeyboy

awesome.. so does that mean they will or not?

M.A.R.C.

i would think they don't. just a guess because the stroke is different. well they probably fit on the crank but the gsr has a shorter stroke so the rod would probably be taller. and yah... for all that work... u should just throw eagles in. better investment.

GPNY

It's been covered before.
LS rods need to have the Big end sides machined and the Pin end bushed from 21mm to 19mm. A competent shop should be able to do it.

GSR rods will not fit. different BE bore and rod length

tgreaves

I think that B16 rods will work.. I remember reading on it a while ago.. Problem is that the rod legenth is longs so I was thinking before about using the B16 rods and Vitara pistons in a D to make up for how low the Vitara pistons sit in the block..

onePOINTsix

good thinking, anyone know what the differences are between the B16 and D16 rods? Like machining the BE and rebushing the the top like the LS rods?

tgreaves

Opps.. The B16 rods are shorter than the stock d16 rods.. You can use the B18C rods though.. You basically need to do the same machine work to the B18C rods as you do the LS rods.. And the B18C rods are a little longer than the LS/D16 rods..

ATS*Mark

stroke is different on the b16 as the b16 is a 1.6 with 81mm bore.....d16 is a 1.6 with 75mm bore.

yellowmonkeyboy

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tgreaves W &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Opps.. The B16 rods are shorter than the stock d16 rods.. You can use the B18C rods though.. You basically need to do the same machine work to the B18C rods as you do the LS rods.. And the B18C rods are a little longer than the LS/D16 rods..</TD></TR></TABLE>

you said i can use b18c rods, but GPYNY stated that,

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GPNY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's been covered before.
LS rods need to have the Big end sides machined and the Pin end bushed from 21mm to 19mm. A competent shop should be able to do it.

GSR rods will not fit. different BE bore and rod length</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm just wondering because i can get a set of b18c rods for free because my friend is upgrading to eagles......

Muckman

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OnePointSicks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont ever understand why people are willing to tear their block appart for 2 or 3 extra psi....... throw eagles in there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly. So you have to have LS rods machined to fit and go through all that work for like 10% more strength. ??Why?? when eagles run ~$300. Them D series guys are a different bunch...

m R g S r

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So true, only $300 too (I think)

ATS*Mark

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Exactly. So you have to have LS rods machined to fit and go through all that work for like 10% more strength. ??Why?? when eagles run ~$300. Them D series guys are a different bunch... </TD></TR></TABLE>

**** not me , i threw pauters in my y8 lol.

M.A.R.C.

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**** not me , i threw pauters in my y8 lol.</TD></TR></TABLE>

god... you're such a stunner!

GPNY

Part # Description C-to-C Length B.E. Bore B.E. Width Pin Dia Pin Width
B93726B Acura Integra 1.6 (D16 1986-93) 5.394" 1.890" 0.892" 0.747" (19mm) 0.710"

B93728B B18A/B18B/CRV 2.0L 5.394" 1.890" 0.935" 0.826" (21mm) 0.900"

B93729B Integra 1.8 VTEC DOHC (B18C 1994-up) 5.433" 1.890" 0.858" 0.826" (21mm) 0.900"

B93741B Honda Civic 1.5 SOHC (D15 1992-95) 5.279" 1.772" 0.897" 0.748" (19mm) 0.710"

B93744B Honda 1.6 VTEC DOHC (B16A 1992-up) 5.290" 1.890" 0.935" 0.827" (21mm) 0.900"

B93745B Honda 1.6 SOHC (D16 series 1988-up) 5.394" 1.890" 0.892" 0.748" (19mm) 0.716"



LS RODS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD FOR 300-350HP they are MUCH thicker than D16 rods. (300-350hp Is a 50-60% increase from the D16 rods)

tgreaves

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OnePointSicks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stroke is different on the b16 as the b16 is a 1.6 with 81mm bore.....d16 is a 1.6 with 75mm bore.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Which makes the rod legenth longer.. Thats why I was saying use these with the Vitara pistons.. Since they sit lower in the block the longer rods should make that up.. I really havent sat down and checked how much it would change them but its a thought..

91civicDXdude

i've heard the puerto ricans or something like that use b16 rods and supra pistons in d series engines and it makes a very potent combination. the shorter b16 rod and taller piston the supra has makes up for the rod length issue.

IMO, i would just buy aftermarket rods. Its the same arguement about using type r cams in an "all motor b series". Sure it will work and be a little stronger than stock, but if you're going to go through the trouble, go big or go home.

M.A.R.C.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91civicDXdude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i've heard the puerto ricans or something like that use b16 rods and supra pistons in d series engines and it makes a very potent combination. the shorter b16 rod and taller piston the supra has makes up for the rod length issue.</TD></TR></TABLE>

TurboPanda on here used that setup without any problems. He's from Thailand though lol.

GPNY

The reason GSR won't work is that the big end is NARROWER... Not that it has a different BE Bore (my mistake)

ATS*Mark

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tgreaves W &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Which makes the rod legenth longer.. Thats why I was saying use these with the Vitara pistons.. Since they sit lower in the block the longer rods should make that up.. I really havent sat down and checked how much it would change them but its a thought..</TD></TR></TABLE>

vitara pistons are ******* garbage i dont know why people think they are the **** . they are not forged so what makes people think they are a performance pistons .

tgreaves

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vitara pistons are ******* garbage i dont know why people think they are the **** . they are not forged so what makes people think they are a performance pistons .</TD></TR></TABLE>

They are make from a different material than oem honda ones are.. They have a different hardning process which makes them stronger and they have stronger ringlands than oem honda ones do.. And they are $125 brand new shipped with rings..