MooreBoost

I have a daily driven GSR with a JRSC, it started chattering about two months ago and about 7 weeks and 2500 bucks later I got it back on. I think its still chattering. Im going to get a second and third opinion but I cant deal with it anymore. If I take that off, would you guys reccomend a N20 system? Our track is only open once a month, and I dont street race, so Id use it, well, once a month. So, if you have one, what did you pay for the complete system, and installation? Thanks,
gmoore

btl fed

If you really want to get rid of your JRSC then I would definitely suggest N2O. Your internals should be strong enough to withstand at least a 75 shot, with 4 degrees timing retard. I got my ZEX kit from http://www.racenet.net for 485 bucks. I love it. I think ZEX is the best kit, because it only sprays when you are at full throttle. I installed it myself with three of my buddies, and we did it in about 3 hours. You should have no problem, and should enjoy it. Good luck.

TurboDC4

I pretty sure most n20 kits only spray at open throttle.

MooreBoost

Yeah, me too, Im pretty sure they only spray at WOT. Anywho, could I expect comparable times on a 75 shot as a JRSC at 10psi? Im alittle weary about installing it myself, what did you all pay to have it done profesionally.
gmoore

MachAF

I would think you would run fater times with a jrsc then with the 75 shot.

Going from a JRSC to NOS is like going from type r to GSR.

I'd keep the JRSC. Even if you don't street race its nice to have instant boost if you need to pass on the freeway.

94dxt

nos is kind of "ghetto" IMO

RyanEJ8

"nos" is actually a brand of nitrous please call it by it's correct name...and it is not ghetto. I bet the 75 shot will be faster. Why? because you get 75hp across the power band.....3000rpm and up, and what most people don't think about is even more torque. 100 tq at the wheels is not unheard of for a 75 shot. I gained close to 90 tq. This is also all the way through the powerband. Not to mention the cooling affects will have different affects with different motors.

94dxt

n20 went out w/ Fast and the Furious as far as Iam concerned, if you must rape your motor do it right w/ a wet kit

gitwidit

If you have it hooked up on a wot switch, you can use a momentary button also.

btl fed

Yep, just like in F&F...

RyanEJ8

If that's true than "Spoon motors with T3 turbos" went out too.

94dxt

since that movie came out all the rice boys w/ slow *** cars are putting dry kits on and thinking they're the ****, what an accomplishment , $500 later you have a slow car that's fast only when you flip the switch and spent $40 filling up each week

RyanEJ8

$25 to fill up in Tampa. Not to mention its nice to be fast only at the flip of a switch, it wears on your motor less and good for gas mileage. It's a shame people call nitrous users ricers, because there is alot more than just slapping in a bottle and expecting to go fast. Without good tuning, fuel upgrades and RESEARCH, you're just asking for trouble on the bottle.

RyanEJ8

By the way what did you run with your Greddy turbo?

genop

If you want easy power, go with the nitrous. I dont consider all nitrous users "ricers" I know alot of people who use it and they are fine with me. It gets a bad reputation for two reasons, first "the fast and the furious" no more explanation needed. Second, nitrous is much cheaper and easier than any other significant power adder. What does this mean to us? Every high school kid that saves up $500 can get a kit, $25 for fillup, then off to hit the streets and act cool. If you know how it works and how to use it responsibly, then you are not a ricer in my opinion.

RyanEJ8

Poop111444

I like Nitrous. I had an NX kit on my 99 Si. Nice, fun, and quick! I sold it to get a turbo, but i want it back

MooreBoost

Please read the whole post before contributing. My JRSC is chattering. I need an IM first.....Reccomendations?
gmoore

btl fed

I hear the skunk2 IM is amazing....it is supposed to give you a lot of top end torque...but that's just what i've heard

quikB18B

Ive had all 3 supercharger, nitrous, and turbo.

here's my honest opinion

1) supercharger was least favorite of the 3, it was nice to have a descent punch for low end, and midrange, but i got owned on the highway by ls1's and those were my goals to beat ls1's.

2) nitrous i had 75 shot wet plate kit, with high compression power was very nice instant power cant beat it. If installed correctly and used right it can do wonders. my roomate redlinegsr is spraying a 65 shot on a ls vtec w/high compression and ran 8.6 in 1/8th, pretty impressive. now what i didnt like about the bottle was 3 things. One when bottle was full i could never find a good race, when it was empty go figure. two after a while refills get old(imo) and three I couldnt stand the fact that i had flip on switch or give car full throttle for it to really move, not saying nitrous is cheating but i wanted power, but full time power. Oh and i just remembered how gay i felt when someone called me out for a race and i said sh#t i cant until tomorrow because i got caught in traffic and didnt get to shop in time to get bottle filled.

3) turbo wow what can i say boost is great, intercooler looks sick, bov makes girls in wet. You have a choice as to how much power you can make depending on how deep you go into building the motor and fuel management. Overall best imo ands thats not biased because ive ran all 3 setup's.

And for the record i dont think that nitrous is cheating or ricey unless like someone said its misused. just my .02 cents

MotorMatrix.com

i wouldnt recommend spraying it on a button at idle even when on the button you have to spray the car at WOT. it just allows you use the button as traction. hit the button and if it spins let off and then get back on it. my friend has a bone stock lS motor and went 12.4 with 100 shot. still hasnt blown up and ls motors only cost 250.00 down here. 12.4 with only 1500.00 invested in the car total is not bad in my opinion. why not run sSC and spray???

Dramon

Heh, finally a group of people who DONT call it nos. Everyone at my school calls it NOS and it bugs the hell out of me. Anyways nitrous like all things is great but you need to do it right. Doing it right is the key, its nice for many reasons, instant horsepower, and isnt as hard on your engine as other hp gainers unless you try to pull a Paul Walker. Although lastly instead of buying a kit just make your own kit. You'll save at least 200 bucks, I don't remember the thread but someone i put together a list a while back, and i've had a few of my friends do it themselves as well.

MotorMatrix.com

I call it Naawwss and everyone knows what I mean.Why get so technical anyway??

censored

how will it be faster?? I'm not sure about you guys, but when I'm going down the track I don't ever see under 3k rpms...


[Modified by H-T Member, 10:58 PM 4/8/2003]

Smashback

I think some people have some serious misconceptions about things, especially you. Nitrous has been around for a long time and is just as race-proven as turbo and supercharging. I wonder if you'll be calling it ghetto when a Camaro with a stock block and a 300 shot whoops your *** at the strip.

As far as the full throttle deal, ZEX is the only one I've seen with a little "computer" to control nitrous injection, while others are button or switch activated. You can spray whenever you want, but it can kill your motor if you're not at WOT as is intended.

Funny that you say that it beats up your engine so bad, 94dxt, since I've had a couple of cars running 100-150 shots for years without problems. Consider how bad a hot intake charge is for a motor ... in that respect is a turbo/supercharger harder on your engine, or is nitrous?

Nitrous is typically easier on your engine, and if you go with a wet kit, chances are you can get more power more safely out of your engine than with a turbo.

However, I am a big fan of turbos because of the always on power, and never having to re-fill a nitrous bottle. If you race your car, you're going to beat it up, so you can't really sweat how long your engine is gonna live. It could go out tomorrow, whether it's stock with nitrous or sleeved and built with turbo!



[Modified by Hatchblack, 5:23 AM 4/9/2003]