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Old 09-16-2006, 01:39 PM
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whats up guys, my buddy has a gsr and has a problem. He's on his third oil pump and we can't figure out why. motor is well built by honda certified techs, wiseco pistons, eagle rods, valve job, hondata, etc... the works. Anyways we went to tune it this morning and blew another pump on the dyno. what could it be. some say lack of oil pressure so we used smaller turbo oil lines and blocked off his oil squirters since he has forged internals. what else could be causing this problem. it's always been new oem parts everytime and a type R pump is the same by part #. any suggestions are appreciated. thanks
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what crank pulley ????????????????????????????????
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how much oil pressure is the engine seeing?

what kind of crank pulley is this engine running?
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How much boost? Ever break your trans?
Old 09-16-2006, 02:49 PM
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was it balanced?

were the bearings plastigaged at least?

was the engine align-honed?

how high is he revving the motor?
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is the oil pressure just dropping or does it have any to begin with
I'm just wondering if your bearing clearence is so off that it making you think the oil pump is going bad where are the clearences at. what kind off bearings are you using and how did you check the clearences ? post pic off them

I know it sounds wierd but it happens
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plus u need to be very very quick at shutting the car off if your oil pump goes. and to be that quick 3 times is really tough. may not be the oil pump like some others said
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Default Re: keep blowing oil pumps, whats the deal?? (dturbocivic)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dturbocivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what crank pulley ????????????????????????????????</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Default Re: keep blowing oil pumps, whats the deal?? (FUCATYPR)

Sounds like a bad line hone or something in the lower rotating assembly, the crank pullie could also be the suspect.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96 GSR-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sounds like a bad line hone or something in the lower rotating assembly, the crank pullie could also be the suspect.</TD></TR></TABLE>

vibration kills the oil pumps
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dturbocivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

vibration kills the oil pumps
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Yea but if bearing clearances are off and or the journals are out of line, it will also shred pumps, by boy lost his motor to a bad line bore, he kept eating up oil pumps.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dturbocivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what crank pulley ????????????????????????????????</TD></TR></TABLE>
this is the first answer we need
Old 09-16-2006, 07:43 PM
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I had this problem, it was the stupid crank pulley

daymn inline 4 honder's got hella harmonics yo
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Default Re: keep blowing oil pumps, whats the deal?? (BMaDOHC)

a freind of mine had the same problem.we thought it was the blocked off oil squirters at first.we even installed a harmonic balancer.turns out he bought the crank from a guy that said it was already balanced and polished.turns out it was bent.not sure if it sat around a while or not.could have fell over or been sitting on it's side
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Default Re: keep blowing oil pumps, whats the deal?? (turbotypeR)

bad balanced crank or if hes using a lightwieght or shitty crank pulley its for sure the cause of the pump failures
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Default Re: keep blowing oil pumps, whats the deal?? (D@nnY)

Im blowing the oil pumps, yes it is my 3rd one, yes the car does have a ebay pulley on it which is real generic.. the car was recently line honed with the oversized bearings but i know its not that because it was done by one of the best around.. ill try using the stock pulley see how it does, im getting a pulley from a friend do they come balanced to that particular crankshaft or do they come balanced for every crankshaft??
Old 09-20-2006, 04:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurbodTegSfaria &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> yes the car does have a ebay pulley on it which is real generic.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

but hey, kids argue on here all day that there is nothing wrong with ebay parts!
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LOSE THE EBAY GAYNESS
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo-charged &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

but hey, kids argue on here all day that there is nothing wrong with ebay parts!</TD></TR></TABLE>

SAME FN THING WOULD HAPPEN IF IT WAS A DAMN CTR CRANK PULLEY!!!!!

Put the stock one on and you will be fine.

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Default Re: keep blowing oil pumps, whats the deal?? (FUCATYPR)

Go back to the stock crank pulley.
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get a pulley with dampning. i shattered a pump at 9k in 4th because of a ctr pulley. solid pulleys FTL.
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broke 3 oil pumps in a month with an unorthodox crank pulley before i figured it out. put a stock balancer back on and no problem for over 3 years
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i couldnt find the pulley that actually came off the engine... my buddy gave me a crank pulley off his b17.. it goes right on there,will this work?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurbodTegSfaria &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i couldnt find the pulley that actually came off the engine... my buddy gave me a crank pulley off his b17.. it goes right on there,will this work?</TD></TR></TABLE>

if it has some rubber material in it, it should do the trick.....

...... if it is all metal, dont use it.....
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