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Old 02-05-2004, 05:01 PM
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it has spearco intercooler,type s bov,vortech fmu(soon to be dyno tuned and buying hondata),jdm b18c1 44k miles (stock internals) im boosting 5psi and im happy with it but my question is if there are any dyno plots of low psi boosted b18c1's.. im keeping low boost because i want reliablity. the fmu is set to run rich to protech the engine and im also wondering if i should go to 7psi when i tune it depending on what a 5-6psi power is.. and does anyone have any input or guess to hp numbers on this car? thanks

(im a superhonda member and ive been checking out the site very impressed superhonda site went down for awhile so we lost all old posts.. and the clueless ricer population is crazy on that site...alot more tech related articles here)
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Boy no kidding. I had a little fun on that site a couple weeks ago. Spent about a week on there, not one single intelligent post popped up in their tech forums.

About your power: Do you know which turbo you are running? Also remember lower boost doesnt necessarily mean more reliability. 5 psi if the setup is done correct expect 220whp-ish.

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i was coming back to the post forgot to say its a t3/t4 forgot the details but one of the specs is .63 got a bad memory i think that was the a/r
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and i was thinking of doing a setup where i can run 5psi daily and 7-8psi at the track and have it tuned both ways like 2 diff maps through hondata ... possible?
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You can do that on one map. The map plots fuel against RPM/manifold pressure. It's a grid, and you plot your two points (say 8000rpms and 5psi) and in that field there's a fuel value. Same with ignition.

In order to tune for 8psi @ 8000rpms, it would read a different field. See what I'm saying?
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im not clear on how the tuning is done on a hondata... ill buy the unit and go to a dyno that was my plan
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but until then im running the vortech fmu and its set up to run rich and its going to be that way for awhile(2-3months)... should i leave it that way?
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well to give you a little help. my stock internal b18c1 mad 260 @ 5 psi on the drag t3/t3 E turbo
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what mods?
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i was thinking like 235whp tuned 5psi im curious what im running with the vortech fmu now @5psi running rich but that seems pretty damn high
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honestly, first thing i would do is get the compression tested and a leak down test. People selling a civic HB with a b18c1 and a turbo setup generally arent too kind to their cars.

After that you have an assortment of other problems. with hondata as of right now it still runs off obd1 i believe. i have no idea what obd your engine is. but if it has an obd2 ECU you are going to need to swap down to obd1.

5psi i would say would be 200-220whp and 170tq.

you gotta research before you just get set in you are doing something. for all i know your car is still running stock injectors....there are alot of variables that are unknown, i suggest you find someone local to you that knows about turbo systems and have them check out things. im sure if you go in the classifieds section and offer $25 for someone to just take a look under the hood you will be better off than where you are now.
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i bought this car from a good freind and his roomate gary is a honda tech and he built the car and he did a compression check in front of me i dont remember the number but it was above the 210 mark and was the same all across give or take 1-2psi i go to there house regularly and he doesnt want anyone working on the car but him...and the motor is a jdm obd1 94 motor and i have done research and 5psi on stock injectors is perfectly fine but not overtime but there are things im going to be doing to the car hondata injectors ect that i already have planned but for a few months its on hold
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You can easily run 7-8psi daily driven,its gonna be all in the tuning.
@5psi,I'd guess somewhere around 210-220hp.Good luck
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anyone have any insight about running rich or should i try to tune the vortech fmu (wont have the hondata for a few months)
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you can run the fmu for a couple of months, just dont use it forever.
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and leave it set up to run rich right?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18c1wes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and leave it set up to run rich right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, you don't really have THAT much control over an FMU. Just keep the boost low, and get hondata like you planned. That's your best bet. You can probably get away with about 8-10psi with hondata, no problem... But don't try any of that **** with an FMU.

Good luck!
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so how does the fmu work and how did the guy set it up to run rich?
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