Azcheron

ok...i am going to post this in this forum and the FI forum.
heres the issue:

installed JRSC, JR fuel pump, JR fuel reg, JR spark plugs, AEM short ram, JR map controller

dyno tuned this piece of **** last night

results.... 190.7 whp at 5.5psi
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
with all the money i have spent, that is crap!

looked on JR's website, says they got 215WHP on a stock ITR with a JRSC and same mods as me, minus the MAP controller....

wtf is the deal? JR a bunch of scum bag liars? something im missing?

so confused right now

631 Teggy

5.5psi isn't much... Remember a roots type blower on a 4 cylinder is ganna rob a lot of power before it makes any. You should be running that blower at higher boost levels to be satisfied...

TheShodan

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Right, and in order to do THAT, you'll have to get some sort of intercooler in order to disapate the heat more. Otherwise, DETONATION occurs...

beepy

5.5 PSI and 190 WHP? That's not bad at all.

Overblown-Teg

I think you just wasted alot of money. A basic turbo kit would have you over 250whp with the same boost.. Sorry man. I don't know why anyone buys those blowers..

Blue-Civic-Hybrid

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I am currently running at 225+ @ 6psi at the wheels on a B18C1 with Hondata. My suggestion to you would be to get your car tuned at another tuner and get rid of all that JR stuff and buy a Hondata S100 with boost option...far more reliable and the ability to be tuned infinitely...

Don't lose faith in the JR system, it is a good system even thier are a lot of turbo haters. Also you might want to check your compression and do a little tune up to your motor.

Turbo E

i havnt heard of any SC ITRs that have made whopping amounts of power. mostly in the 200-250 WHP range.

Jared

JRSC = junk

saleensolution

belts are for holding your pants up go buy a turbo

Drew Peacock

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MooreBoost

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I hated mine with a passion. Spend 700 bucks on a homemade turbo kit and havent looked back.

Sinitron

That's pretty sad for an ITR. Mine made 190whp all-motor when I sold it...

Most ITR's do a buck-sixty to the wheels as-is.... 173-175 with bolt-ons...
Cams and valvetrain, larger injectors and a stage2 hondata, you can usually squeeze out 180-190whp without much of a stretch. 200whp is the norm.

kleefton

am I so glad I don't have a jrsc anymore. lol

Anyway, JRSCs don't like b18c5s. the problem is the ITR cams. They have too much overlap. Get some cam gears and get your tuner to tune it out. Even as weak as the JRSC is you should be able to clear 200whp easily.

On my b16a2 I made 200whp at 6psi with the JR

Azcheron

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Overblown-Teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think you just wasted alot of money. A basic turbo kit would have you over 250whp with the same boost.. Sorry man. I don't know why anyone buys those blowers.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i didnt ******* ask you to tell me to buy a turbo kit!

i did A LOT of research and went with the blower for particular reasons, i dont give a flying **** if a turbo for the same cash gives 20% more power

next time, try to be helpful and not an idiot

im sick of 75% of the people posting on each forum, saying "screw that JRSC, get a turbo!"

well guess what! the JRSC is in the car and staying in the damn car, so get off the turbo obsession!

Azcheron

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blue-Civic-Hybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am currently running at 225+ @ 6psi at the wheels on a B18C1 with Hondata. My suggestion to you would be to get your car tuned at another tuner and get rid of all that JR stuff and buy a Hondata S100 with boost option...far more reliable and the ability to be tuned infinitely...

Don't lose faith in the JR system, it is a good system even thier are a lot of turbo haters. Also you might want to check your compression and do a little tune up to your motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

THIS is the kind of post i like to hear when im pissed off!

thanks

JRSC haters...

this guy

lol

roadrunner

Matt (Spunkster here on H-T) at Hondata got over 260Hp on his ITR so the potential is there. He did have a Comptech header and cat-back, running at 10psi, but I recall he gained over 40Hp in the tuning.

RacerXI

Tuning is key. Moreso is something that can tune air fuel/timing. Some people make good power with the JR stuff, but when I had my blower I didn't.

b20turbojason

also the weather can effect the results of your numbers. i am sure you know that but do you know what the conditions where when jr did their dyno run.

Muckman

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You wont make big power with the JR EMS bandaides. You need a real, professionally tuned EMS. Tuning, tuning, tuning.

DC2_TEG

How was your a/f ratio? Hope it was nothing like mine

https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1

Blue-Civic-Hybrid

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THIS is the kind of post i like to hear when im pissed off!

thanks

JRSC haters...

this guy

lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks for the kind words. I highly recommend Church Automotive Tuning if you are in California for Hondata tuning. Also a set of adjustable cam gears will yield the numbers you are looking for and even give more tunability. If you want a complete list of mods I have on my JRSC, just let me know.

JRSC=

warrick

I know a guy who has a sc'd gsr, but not a JR.. at 9 pounds, so not even double your boost, he made 292 hp to the wheels.

the guy who tuned it knows his stuff though..

I would really really suggest, for the sake of your motor, tuneability, and power output, to get bigger injectors and a real EMS

donkiman

my buddy with a vortech supercharger on his itr made 274 whp stock block with 9 psi

hadboosttroy

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vortech is a completely different kind of supercharger, and a dyno queen with a terrible power band.

stay strong with the jrsc, they rock

ATS*Mark

if you dont ******* care about a turbo making 20% more power then why did you post saying crappy dyno times???? shut the **** up and accept it then, but dont get mad when people telll you that you wasted your money , because you did ,you could have built your head for less than a grand and see the same power .