HYREV2NR

Need to get the SC rebuilt. Just need to know the usuall, U know, place & $$. Thanks alot.

MooreBoost

Not JR.

They sent me back another one that was already chattering from the time I bolted it on.

HYREV2NR

Thanks!

PaImportTuner

http://www.pse.us/

HYREV2NR

I talked to those guys 2-day & they comfused me more than they helped me. I mean I'm sure they know a whole lot more than me but I just didn't like their KNOW-IT-ALL attitude. But I do appreciate the help! I think i'm gonna call Eaton Magnason 2-morrow.

PaImportTuner

you pay 7-800 for porting and rebuild doesnt get any simplar then that. Magnusson is good too Eaton recommended

jsprelude

I heard Endyn does rebuilds on JRSC, The Shop that has worked on my car sends alot of them to those guys?

madhive

http://www.stiegemeier.com/index1.html

I think it's about $400 for a M62, but you could just email Bob to be certain.

PaImportTuner

m62 is worlds of a difference then the m45. m62 is what the mercedes come with minus the small kompressor coupe which is m45. i think JRSC shouldnt cheap out anymore and use the the m62s automatically and up the prices like they already do now with there existing kits. even the chevy cobalt SS has the m62

they use these m45s that are too small for built apps right. then you buy JRs stages 1-2 and tune and overspin the blower with small pulleys then you blow the blower or motor from heat/detonation. when instead of offering there shitty stage 1 or 2 offer a blower upgrade for the m62. like there "highboost kit" should have the m62. it would only cost them what 100-200 extra and us $3-400. i rather spend 400/500 on the m62 upgrade then $1000 on there 2 stages that we blow something and run non efficient.. [/rant]



Modified by PaImportTuner at 3:52 PM 8/23/2005

PaImportTuner

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HYREV2NR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I talked to those guys 2-day & they comfused me more than they helped me. I mean I'm sure they know a whole lot more than me but I just didn't like their KNOW-IT-ALL attitude. But I do appreciate the help! I think i'm gonna call Eaton Magnason 2-morrow.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry about that i just talk to them too and they do have "know it all" attitudes said i was stupid if i run 14-15psi on a roots type blower EVEN with endyns blower mod and lht water to air IC yeh ok. they said i would see 300* and ruin something. and i said well the EMS datalog shows 180* on hard back to back runs.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by madhive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.stiegemeier.com/index1.html

I think it's about $400 for a M62, but you could just email Bob to be certain.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Info from PSE,

i just got a quote of around $1500 to upgrade to the m62 and them porting it out and blower work including labor. you need to send them the JR blower and manifold. because the m62 shaft is too long and the belts wont line up.

they also have a twinscrew blower upgrade option that you can run 15-18psi EFFICIENTLY and they said if you have the eaton (JRm45 not m62) and there twinscrew at same psi the twinscrew will make 60hp off the bat. but that cost about $2200 and $1000 of that total is just to make some "adapter plate" from blower to manifold

madhive

All B series use the M62's , except the Ls motor. And all D series use the M45 which is to small for them too.

PaImportTuner

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by madhive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All B series use the M62's , except the Ls motor. And all D series use the M45 which is to small for them too. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i will say your wrong. the only JR kit for Hondas that use the m62 is the new 02+ Si and RSX type S Kits.

the advertisement. "new Gen IV JR62 Supercharger" the m62 gen 4 is the same gen as there gen 4 m45. why dont they just say we made the kit just like the old one with a new housing to run efficient and not get so hot and with a bigger blower(m62). thats why there new kit would produce more at 6psi cause it has a bigger blower. info i gathered and seen on peoples K seriesJR kits and they are 6 bolt which are m62. every other D/B/H kit has 4 bolt which is m45.

how i know i just spent 1 hour yesterday talking about JRs line and planning the m62 upgrade on my B16 kit with Magnuson and at a very good price.. JR cant do the m62 upgrade already asked.


Modified by PaImportTuner at 3:40 PM 8/24/2005

joetrisman

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PaImportTuner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Info from PSE,

i just got a quote of around $1500 to upgrade to the m62 and them porting it out and blower work including labor. you need to send them the JR blower and manifold. because the m62 shaft is too long and the belts wont line up.

they also have a twinscrew blower upgrade option that you can run 15-18psi EFFICIENTLY and they said if you have the eaton (JRm45 not m62) and there twinscrew at same psi the twinscrew will make 60hp off the bat. but that cost about $2200 and $1000 of that total is just to make some "adapter plate" from blower to manifold </TD></TR></TABLE>

So with their know it all bs, do you buy into the twin screw thing actually working considering your setup shows they are wrong....? I think it would be very nice to draw some popularity back to chargers.

madhive

Trust me man all b series come with a M62, except the LS.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=678168

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=890303

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1129208

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=609937

Demon_Dub

Has anyone gone too magnusson motorsports for their SC rebuild?

sharkcohen

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PaImportTuner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i will say your wrong. the only JR kit for Hondas that use the m62 is the new 02+ Si and RSX type S Kits. D/B/H kit has 4 bolt which is m45.[/i]</TD></TR></TABLE>
The Prelude (H22) kit has always used the M62.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by http://www.jacksonracing.com/graphics/BOMS/989-650.pdf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
988-306 S/C ASSEMBLY - PRELUDE 1
051-076 SCREW, AHCS, M8 X 1.25 X 20 4
051-122 STUD 8X40X1.25 4
051-938 NUT, FLANGE, M8X1.25, 3/8IN AF 4
051-141 HOSE BARB, 90 DEG,1/4 NPTX3/8 2
051-142 HOSE BARB. 7/32 VACUUM 7
051-527 GASKET, M62 S/C-MANIFOLD 1
051-528 GASKET,GEN3 S/C-TB ADAPTER 1
051-605 S/C GEN3 M62CCW 3.4-6R 1
051-606 ADAPTER, T-BODY INLET 1
051-624 ADAPTER, S/C - INTAKE MANIFOLD 1
051-817 HOSE BARB, 1/4 NPTX3/8X45 DEG 1
051-853 HOSE, VACUUM, 5/32 X 6 IN. 1</TD></TR></TABLE>

Drives me nuts when people don't know what the **** they are talking about.


Modified by sharkcohen at 9:32 PM 8/25/2005

HYREV2NR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PaImportTuner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

sorry about that i just talk to them too and they do have "know it all" attitudes said i was stupid if i run 14-15psi on a roots type blower EVEN with endyns blower mod and lht water to air IC yeh ok. they said i would see 300* and ruin something. and i said well the EMS datalog shows 180* on hard back to back runs.


Info from PSE,

i just got a quote of around $1500 to upgrade to the m62 and them porting it out and blower work including labor. you need to send them the JR blower and manifold. because the m62 shaft is too long and the belts wont line up.

they also have a twinscrew blower upgrade option that you can run 15-18psi EFFICIENTLY and they said if you have the eaton (JRm45 not m62) and there twinscrew at same psi the twinscrew will make 60hp off the bat. but that cost about $2200 and $1000 of that total is just to make some "adapter plate" from blower to manifold </TD></TR></TABLE>C whutt I mean?!!! Now it's not just me saying that. Very pompas attitude!

HYREV2NR

I'm gonna go to a turbo before too long but I'm glad I had a SC first. Even when I get more power from a turbo I will never be a basher of the SC! I hate when folks do that! For the time I've had it, it's been alot of fun & would suggest it for lo-end torque on tap & a great way to get interduced to the FI world.

HYREV2NR

I talked to a guy @ Magnuson today & he's been doing this longer than I've been around & I'm 39. W/out shipping it will be 200 bucks @ the least & 700 @ the most. If it's the full 700 that also includes a brand new rotor assymbly. Really nice guy. He's definately got my business!

PaImportTuner

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sharkcohen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Prelude (H22) kit has always used the M62.
Drives me nuts when people don't know what the **** they are talking about.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

well i was missed informed by magnusson and jr and i guess all the Bseries JR kits i seen are m45s. but thats what i saw/seen. so i'll go m90 then instead and have them chnage the end of casing and shorten the shaft.

but relax your tone with me and get all cocky you dumb son of a bitch.

sharkcohen

Heheheh, just checked the JR site again, the following kits also use the M62 (go and see for yourself): GSR, ITR, 99-00 SI.

Don't get mad at me because you were wrong

And I think you are making a good move trying out the M90, I've always wanted to do that but I don't think there's room in the Prelude engine bay.

PaImportTuner

i dont read the info on site i call them up personally but it seems that people who answer phones/work for them dont have memory or reading skills since its on there site..

m90 isnt as big as you think have you seen the specs on magnuson. the Pontiac GTPs come with the m90s btw.

and i kinda like the "idea" i was thrown by PSE about twin screw conversion but not the price.

madhive

Finally you believe someone. I guess my post wasn't good enough to change your mind.

sharkcohen

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PaImportTuner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont read the info on site i call them up personally but it seems that people who answer phones/work for them dont have memory or reading skills since its on there site..

m90 isnt as big as you think have you seen the specs on magnuson. the Pontiac GTPs come with the m90s btw.

and i kinda like the "idea" i was thrown by PSE about twin screw conversion but not the price. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The phone monkeys at Moss Motors are complete idiots.

Heheh, the M62 almost touches the lude firewall, I don't think the M90 will fit.

I agree that the twin screw blower is the best idea (other than the price), screw type blowers are the most efficient.

Anyway, I may be going turbo soon (finally)


Modified by sharkcohen at 1:56 PM 8/27/2005

PaImportTuner

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sharkcohen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The phone monkeys at Moss Motors are complete idiots.

Heheh, the M62 almost touches the lude firewall, I don't think the M90 will fit.

I agree that the twin screw blower is the best idea (other than the price), screw type blowers are the most efficient.</TD></TR></TABLE>

m62 is
9.25 wide including the actuator
4.91 tall
17.7 long

m90 is
10.3 wide " "
5.30 tall
17 long abit shorter

i would bang infirewall or motor mounts that would clear firewall for jrsc clearance.

you'll miss the SC and kick yourself in the ***. with modifying, upgraing blowers, tuning them you can be just as fast a turboed vehicles.