deltegra11

hey everyone im building a b16a turbo im building the motor but, im not sure if i should sleeve the block. what are your thoughts? Pluse what valves should i use there are so many to pick from just not sure what is the best for the $$ cause im not looking to spend a **** ton on valves that will work as good as the cheepest one (hope u all under stand what i was trying to say there lol.)

p.s im looking to pull around 350whp-400whp (maybe more if running someone thats got more). not that it matters but in a delsol


thanks for the help!!!

kyden

if your stock valves are fine, reuse them. at 400whp you shouldn't have to sleeve, but the choice is yours really.

96 GSR-T

If your going to sleeve start with a 1.8L block, no sense in spending all that money to make your 1.6 a 1.8 when you can make your 1.8 a 2.0.

A stock B16 will live happily at 350whp on a good tune for a long time, after that some have luck some dont... not every motor is the same.

deltegra11

so ur saying a b16 even built with rods an valves an all the other happy stuff is not safe after 350whp??? plus i have a b16 not a b18

deltegra11

my valves are not good thats why i ask.. i for surely need new ones... an i want to get the best for my money but not looking to spend a ton like i said on them like 100-350$ is where i would love to be at

deltegra11

what sleeves should i get too if i even need to get them????.... my biggest question is how much power will the stock sleeves hold? an valves i was going to go with the skunk2s are they good for turbo or are there stronger ones for the same price or lower i can get them for 268$

sanman000719

rev-speed out in cali runs 32lbs of boost, and is over 550 h.p. on his stock b16 if i remember correctly the boost amount is the only thing that might be off there but thats it

sanman000719

here is the video the only thing is he was on crower cams untill one snapped in half


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LezYlMZzGfU

deltegra11

yea but how long did it last?? i cant see it going that far just my thoughts.. so sleeves r really not needed for the power im going for then right? but at what point should i think about getting sleeves? an am still looking for the answer about the valves

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

Sleeves are only needed after about the 400-450whp on average there's no EXACT time to get them. As for valves, if you replace them with other those other than stock, like oversized 1mm valves, you'll need to be prepared to have machining to the head done to have the new valves installed.

9.0:1 + pistons are fine with a simple set of Eagle rods. Any of the parts that you're asking about are rated for a horsepower level far greater than what you're going to put against it.

Relax. Stop repeating questions that have been clearly already answered. The "power level" is not going to be exact for any of what you're planning to do. But at the same time, I agree that just because an example went over 518whp (might as well be 900whp) doesn't mean its something you should attempt.

deltegra11

ok so no sleeves thanks.. now the valves i was going to go for stock size but just not sure on whos to use cause i know valves r made from alot of different kinds of metal some im not sure what would handle the heat the best cause as i said i cant use my stock ones cause i have some bad ones.

sanman000719

his car is still running

i also ran a totally stock gsr for an entire season at 530/353@28psi that block is still togather and more than likely getting ready to go back in my car it has been more reliable than any built block i have had

deltegra11

ok but mine is not a b18 its a b16... i mean i know these motors are like dam near the same

sanman000719

yup my point is stock sleeves can and will get it done and have longevity

tis all in the abilities of the tuner man.

deltegra11

ok thank man.. but whats a good valve set to use cause my stock ones are not bad but they are not that great got a good bit of build up an i want to just start clean whats the best ones to use for a turbo app.???

sanman000719

im on supertech valves .5's and stock cams

deltegra11

i was looking in to them i was going with their pistons. but what type like they make alot of different ones. i want to stay stock size but im not sure on what type of supertech valve to get for int./exh. or does it not really mater?

ashb82

use stock valves they will work fine at your power level. stock honda valves are very good and will last at very high hp

deltegra11

my stock ones r bad thats why im trying to find the best plus at a good price not looking to go over 280$

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

There are several companies of valves to choose from. Just because said company makes Pistons as well, doesn't mean they are specialists at it. AND vice versa.

Staying with a stock size valve means less machining and less time, and won't make any difference in power either way. Ferrea, Skunk2, Supertech, are all decent companies. As for pistons, get a forged set and not these aftermarket cast sets that are made for NA cars. JE, Wiseco, Mahle, CP, are all great.

No one here is going to do the shopping for the best price for you. You need to do that yourself based upon the [I]right[I] company for you.