Arthas

Sup all

1995 Integra RS
B16A2
eBay turbo kit
NGK BKR7E @ .022
DSM 440cc injectors
Chipped P28

The car will be getting dyno tuned tomorrow morning, but we want to make certain that the car is running like *** because it has no tune, and not because something else is wrong.

It idles perfect and when its in low RPM's its fine, once we get ~4000+ RPM it starts sputtering, misfiring and builds very low boost. The turbo spools fine, but still builds no boost.

Also, I have the waste gate hooked up like so Cruise control fitting--->boost controller--->second boost controller nipple-->waste gate bottom port (top port is open)
The turbo doesnt have a nipple for the vacuum line, so this was the closest I could get to it. Is it correct?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VAhAgF0Qh0

non-VTEC

keep driving it like that and you will be posting "my engine blew up and i don't know why"

don't drive it at all without having it tuned. i guarantee what your hearing/feeling is crazy knock/detonation from no tune.

Arthas

Had to be a Canadian.

digital sol

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Tune or bust

non-VTEC

what does that mean dipshit?

he is driving around a untuned car with boost and its full of ebay parts....i guess i should have said...had to be a american....

Arthas

So youre positive its the tune? We dont want to show up to the shop tomorrow and tell us something else needs to get fixed before they can tune, and well have to go back another day.

digital sol

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Well lets put it this way..even if it is not the tune, if you continue to beat on an untuned motor despite if there is a seperate issue at hand your still going to destroy your engine......honestly other than starting the car up briefly @ idle and checking for leaks I would not be driving that car into boost....if you upgraded your injectors I would not even try to idle the car unless I had a decent map to go off of...you can wash your rings at idle in no time at all....

Personally, id tow it to the tuner & have it tuned. If there is an issue it can be addressed at the shop. Do not enter boost or your motor wont even make it to the tuner.. tuning is the MOST IMPORTANT part in turbo'ing your honda.....you can put 10k in parts and destroy in engine in 30 seconds or less if your not tuned...sad thing is this happens all the time, do yourself a favor and get it tuned!

PS: I cant watch the video at work but you stated after 4K+ rpms....you should not be going WOT on an untuned setup PERIOD....your just asking to hurt your engine. Get it tuned & post back the numbers she makes! Dont forget to check for leaks, top off your fluids & bring some extra spark plugs! Also a wideband in your future wouldnt be a bad thing...

justYncredible

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to a fellow satown native
dude dont go into pressure without a tune. thats why your motor is acting up. your ecu doesnt know what to do, and i hope you put your stock injectors in there until you see the tuner. your dumping to much fuel in the cylinder with bigger injectors and no tune and this will cause detonation and your motor will blow. with 6k post i would think you would have done some research brah. i would hate to see you blow the motor before you can enjoy it.

so do this:
put stock injectors back in
put stock spark plugs back in
take off the charge pipe and just put an air filter on the throttle body. removing the charge pipe will prevent the motor from see boost all together.

Turbo-LS

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I swear people just get dumber as the days progress. It's seems like every other post these days is some idiot boosting his car and can't figure out why it runs like crap or it's breaking up on a base map. IT'S A DAMN BASE MAP TO START THE CAR AND TUNE FROM THERE, PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!! close thred

6000+posts are your seriously asking about this? Are all your posts in the looks section? Come on by now you've got to know this isn't how it's done I mean really???? Sorry for being harsh but the base map thing is just getting old and people are just throwing money out the window blowing up engines for no reason.

justYncredible

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^^
Couldnt say it any better myself
I'm glad for the time I took (countless hours) investigating how I'm going to do my build.

I think these post need to be screened like team integra use to be there site got bought and changed

Spawne32

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i see a couple problems with this persons car

1) b16a in an integra
2) ebay turbo kit
3) NGK BKR7E @ .22
4) I thought DSM injectors require a resistor box?
5) lol @ trying to run a turbo car on a base map chip of all things

justYncredible

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OP
what shop is tuning your car? Just curious since we live in the same city

Arthas

You guys are all idiots that cant read worth dick. The responses you guys are giving are the ones you should be giving people that ask "how long can I run a car untuned for", "Can i use stock injectors with my turbo?", "wheres a good place I can get base maps from?", etc etc etc. I have boosted my own Civic before and got it tuned ASAP. I am not a pro with turbo set ups but Ive done my share of work on it and I know exactly how important the tune is.
My Y8 didnt run this crappy pre-tune which why I was asking if there could be something else wrong besides not having a proper map. As we all know, getting stuff fixed at a shop isnt cheap.


@jusYncredible. The car was tuned by Chad @ Noribilt on Bandera and 410. The boost controller didnt work and the waste gate had a 5psi spring so he ran it off the waste gate alone. The final numbers were 215whp/150tq, not bad for a 5psi spring. Also the clutch is slipping during hard shifts so I recommended a new clutch, new OE head gasket, and ARP's then go back for a re tune and maybe shoot for 250whp.

Turbo-LS

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Just because you base map on a single cam 1.6 was close doesn't mean it should or will be on your dual cam 1.8. Yes I know it's a different baseman but it doesn't matter.

Epic fail.

TravisBiggie

why are your plugs gapped to .22

Arthas

My tuner recommended .22. Honda-tech recommends .22. I had no issues with my spark plugs and I was making 210whp on stock everything.


What do you recommend they be gapped at?

Gunmetal_B20_Hatch

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He's probably running the same basemap that was on his Y8...

Arthas

My Y8 set up was 2 years ago in California. I do miss that set up though, the torque was amazing.

justYncredible

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my neighbor is like in love with those guys lol
im getting my car tuned at henderson performance, ive known corey for about 10 years. hope everything works out for ya brah

Arthas

haha yeah I hear a lot about them here in SA. Theyre pricey but they did good work on the car. Im used to paying $240 for Crome and $150 for every re tune after that hahaha

justYncredible

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To each there own when it comes to tuning. I can't say much about norbilt because the only thing I'm having done by them is my test pipe and then heading to henderson.

Muckman

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Its .022" not .22"! .22 would be nearly a quarter of an inch gap.

Most importantly why is that CEL light on? The chipped ecu should be a driveable basemap that is configured for the proper injectors, map sensor, O2 etc. Clearly its not. Probably the injectors are not set right in the basemap or are not using a resistor pack like Spawne mentioned. It would be smarter to return the EFI back to stock so you can drive it to the tuner (keep it out of boost) on the stock ECU and then swap back the injectors/map/wideband etc when you get there.

Arthas

Car was tuned already and doesnt have a MIL brother. Thanks though!

Spawne32

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someone lock this stupid *** thread lol

rich7777

Get those **** out in your avatar and i'll be your friend.