SlowB16si

Alright I installed my RC's and the clips to my car. (00 si) Put in the conversion harness and the ECU. First time I tried to turn the car on it turned on, but then bogged out and died. Pulled the plugs and they were wet, So i dried them and let them sit, still wouldn't start. Went and got some NGK plugs, gapped them to .030 and tried them, still no dice. So I need your help on what I should try next. The car won't even turn over, it's all starter and no "boggleing" noise trying to start. Any suggestions or help

perlmeister8

what fuel management are you running? Did the person who made the basemap account for 550 injectors and use a fuel multiplier?

SlowB16si

Yes, and i'm running uberdata

perlmeister8

well you are obviously getting fuel, getting spark?

SlowB16si

Ya i pulled the pulgs and they are sparking, this is what I dont understand, Maybe too much fuel and not enough spark? I guess thats just flooding.

perlmeister8

wel obviously sounds rich, try and get tuned and that will alleviate a lot of problems

phattim

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by perlmeistere81 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wel obviously sounds rich, try and get tuned and that will alleviate a lot of problems</TD></TR></TABLE>

this is what he is trying to achieve, but the tuner is a good 3 and a half hours away. so he needs his car to run. I pulled the plugs to find cyl 1 and 3 wet and 2 and 4 just a little. He has busch platnum 2 plugs in there with can not be good at all. he is going to pick up some ngk bkr's and see what happens. I do not know if he go tin contact with the person who chipped and burned the basemap yet. I just dont get it, the car wont turn over, but it did the first time after the install of the new parts. I am just trying to help a local out. thanks for everyones imput and help.

BEN

95cxh22a

might be in limp mode, i have burnt chips that for some reason freaked out and didnt work. specially with ud. thats why i use crome and an ostrich now, also i would ditch those bosch plugs. ngk ownz.

SlowB16si

Alright The plugs are bkr7e's, should those plugs work? They are getting spark for sure and they are getting fuel, just not igniating. Is it the plugs fault or just too much fuel with the 550's


Modified by SlowB16si at 1:37 PM 7/31/2005

boosted k20

u sure u have 550cc injectors? try to take fuel away from the map and see if it will start up. get a wideband on it asap once its started cuz if ur run n too rich u could wash the rings out

also r u throw n any CEL?

dc2legend

Is your fuel pump coming on?

solowb5

those are great plugs for a turboed car. i cant run anything but those in my a4. get a adj fpr or a pressure regulator that goes in diff rpms. thats prob ur problem

phattim

first off they are RC 550's, its printed on them (brand new), second no CEL at this time, third he doesn't have the equiptment for tuning or chipping, forth the fuel pump is coming on. keep the ideas coming. thanks for everyones help.
Ben

EARLdaSQUIRREL

sounds like whoever setup the chip didnt do it right or the chip is a bunk chip

brian

093turbo16

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brian</TD></TR></TABLE>

I burnt the chip for him. I converted a 450 map to a 550 map. I think that was the problem. I will take care of it for him. This is the first basemap I have ever had problems with.

SlowB16si

Sending the chip out tomorrow first thing in the morning. for fast service from john

phattim

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This is a good guy!! give me a call mike when you get it


Ben

boosted k20

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I burnt the chip for him. I converted a 450 map to a 550 map. I think that was the problem. I will take care of it for him. This is the first basemap I have ever had problems with.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i dont see how that could be the problem. maybe something got messed up while making the basemap. hope u fix ur problem.
good luck

093turbo16

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i dont see how that could be the problem. maybe something got messed up while making the basemap. hope u fix ur problem.
good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have had this happen before. But not all the time. I did a basemap from 550s to 450s once in a Z6 and the car wouldn't start. It was a fully tuned map on 550s, but the injectors went bad... but that probably had something to do with the injectors being crap.

EARLdaSQUIRREL

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I burnt the chip for him. I converted a 450 map to a 550 map. I think that was the problem. I will take care of it for him. This is the first basemap I have ever had problems with.</TD></TR></TABLE>

good guy, shoulda known, john sells ecu's to everyone it seems

btw slowb16si, if you need any help with anything im somewhat local now, and if you wanna try n convince john to come here n tune, i have a dyno a couple mins from my place (slowboyracing) and maybe john would come out for both of us...

brian

tthame1

Are you sure that you have saturated injectors and not peak and hold? The part number on the injectors should be something like SL9-550. If the part number starts with P, you have the wrong ones.

Also, make sure that you unplug the purge valve, it may not be the problem now, but it will cause cranking problems later. On any obd-II car running an obd-I ecu, you have to unplug the purge valve.

SlowB16si

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phattim &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is a good guy!! give me a call mike when you get it


Ben</TD></TR></TABLE>

Will do man, Thanks for coming out and looking at it too

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coptzer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good guy, shoulda known, john sells ecu's to everyone it seems

btw slowb16si, if you need any help with anything im somewhat local now, and if you wanna try n convince john to come here n tune, i have a dyno a couple mins from my place (slowboyracing) and maybe john would come out for both of us...

brian</TD></TR></TABLE>

I might be going out there pretty soon maybe we can both go out together and work soemthing out, Ill let you know when I plan on going


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tthame1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you sure that you have saturated injectors and not peak and hold? The part number on the injectors should be something like SL9-550. If the part number starts with P, you have the wrong ones.

Also, make sure that you unplug the purge valve, it may not be the problem now, but it will cause cranking problems later. On any obd-II car running an obd-I ecu, you have to unplug the purge valve.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Just went out to make sure, SL9-550, thanks for the heads up with the purge vavle, I didnt know so you just saved me a headache

tthame1

Ok, well now that we are sure that you have the correct injectors.

How did you do the connections on the injector clips? Did you solder or use butt splices, b/c if you used butt splices, that is probably your problem. You absolutely must solder those things. Also, are you absolutely sure that you don't have some of the clips swapped around and on the wrong injectors? With the longer lengths of wire, its hard to tell which ones go to which injector sometimes.

SlowB16si

I have them spliced right now, I did one at a time so they are all connected with the right wires. I am going to solder them later on today or tomorrow though.


Also I checked and all the injectors are fireing

tthame1

Yeah, I would definately do that. A lot of times the butt splices will add resistance and cause problems. Hopefully that is what's causing yours.

Did you ever get your map reburned?