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Old 06-09-2004, 08:12 AM
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Default I need help asap please... Idle vs temperature problem AEM EMS !

So .... I just change my IACV ( behind the IM ) on my D16Z6 cuz he wasnt good anymore... and the problem still there :

My car stalls when hes warm at a stop sign or when I brake suddently...
and when the engine is hot the car starts and after 1 second or 3 he just stall I have to give a lot of gas to keep it running.....

So my tuner said to try to play with the Idle vs temperature graph... so I tried to raise my idle but nothing happen ??? WTF ??

Is it a wiring problem ??

oh and my VSS doesnt work too ...

So I was supposed to meet my tuner tonight to get a racing fuel map but it seems that I couldnt be there... he told me to fix this problem... he dont want to search...

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Does it stall when you press on the gas slightly or when your trying to idle..

Also a side question not related to your problem, What internals do you have in your z6 motor..
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What are you current Idle settings set at?
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I dont know to what my idle is set.... it run always at 1000 rpm cold or hot....

The car stalls only when I let my feet off the throttle pedal ...like on a stop.

Or when I try to start it without giving gas when hes hot...he starts...and stall after 2 seconds...

see my sign for detail on my car ( the link for the dyno all is there )
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oh and im not able move my idle.... nothing happen when I tried to...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yellowturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont know to what my idle is set.... it run always at 1000 rpm cold or hot....

The car stalls only when I let my feet off the throttle pedal ...like on a stop.

Or when I try to start it without giving gas when hes hot...he starts...and stall after 2 seconds...

see my sign for detail on my car ( the link for the dyno all is there )</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, I am talking the Idle feedback settings in the software.
Like the TPS on and Off, RPM level, etc.
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ok ... I dont remember I will have to look at all this tonight... sorry if im not clear but its hard to me to explain all this in english... I do my best loll
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Hmm.. Letting off the gas and having it stall might be the decel fueling.. What version of the ems software are you using?
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no its not when im decelarating...its when my car is begins to idle.... like when it come to 1100 rpm the engine just dies ...
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im using the latest version...my tuner updated it
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yellowturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no its not when im decelarating...its when my car is begins to idle.... like when it come to 1100 rpm the engine just dies ...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ahhh.. Check your decel fuel cutoff rpm and tell me what it is.. Its called DFCO Speed..
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Thanks for the help I appreciate this !

I cant look at it now but I will do in 3 hours...im at my job now
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Sure thing.. IM me when you get home and let me know what its set to.. If thats the problem ill explain what it was doing and then youll understand why..
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cool thanks !!!! I will Im you tonight. If you are right you will just makes my day lol !
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yellowturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cool thanks !!!! I will Im you tonight. If you are right you will just makes my day lol ! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Even if that doesnt fix it I have other stuff to try.. Just let me know..
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eheh or pm me your phone number loll ... mmmh bad idea I speak english very bad loll !
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How warm has it been near you ???

I skimmed thru this post but remember that as temps rise you will need to lower the fuel that is sent into the system. If you tuned the car to idle when the outside temps were 40 degrees or so then you will be too rich now when the temps are higher without some compensation.

There is an intake air temperature chart that you might want to try adjusting if you think I am thinking correctly. I found this out the hard way recently with my car stalling constantly but she idles like butter now on 580cc injectors at 750 RPM.

PM me if you want some other ideas.
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the car have been tuned at like 20 celcius ( in a shop ) but its like 30 celcius here... anyway I will try to lean it out ... all idea are welcome loll !

thanks
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Do you have your closed loop feedback turned on.. Also do you have a wideband o2 sensor or a narrowband..
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sounds like fueling problems to me. the basemap idle setting should work fine. datalog starting till it dies and watch whats happening
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