2K_TEG

I just got off the phone with Joe of Alaniz cylinder heads and he was a very nice and inforative guy. Anyways, his advice shocked me. I told him about my plans for a high boost LS. He told me a few things about his shop then went into his recommendation:

Stock Cams (I was planning on using stock anyways)
Stock retainers
Stock outer springs
His higher pressure inner springs
His SS valves
Full port and polish as described on the website
Not matching head bore to block bore (84mm)

After he told me these things I told him I was thinking about some titanium retainers, and dual valve springs and he otld me to forget about those things because they wouldn't do anything helpful for me. He also said he could charge me an extra $125 and open up the bore on the cylinder head to 84mm but his experience has shown no reason to do so, and that Erick's All motor race car has not enlarged the cylinder head cumbustion chamer in this way.

Also, and this is what gets me the most, he told me I could rev to 9K rpms. I would not try that, but could I? My initial response in HELL NO, but word on the street is this guy knows his ****. What are your impressions on this?

DIRep972

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hummmm, this kinda relates to my LS cams question earlier that got such a good response (insert sarcasm).. my question here is, even if u can rev to 9k will the stock LS cams make power up there? w/ the headwork u will have!

how high are u planning on revving your motor? u r doing the block girdle I remember right?

oh, what size valves did he reccomend?


[Modified by DIRep972, 8:46 PM 5/3/2002]

int3gra

how much did he quote you?

dbman96

I think if his stiffer inner springs will keep the valves under control, the cams won't be a problem. Cams will flatten out when you're running NA if they can't get enough air in at high RPM, but under forced induction they should be able to pull significantly higher.

2K_TEG

He said that the way he does heads, the turbo will run out of effeciency before the head does. He was adament about stock cams...he apparently did a bunch of research with the Kubos and found that the stock cams offer better performance with turbo applications.

yes, I was planning on running the girdle. I am not sure if I will go GSR or Z10 with that though. I do not really have any plans for how high to rev, we will just see how high it is safe and where the car stops making power. I think it will end up to be a compromise between the two.

I forgot to ask BUT he said he always runs stock valves except in turbo applications. He said the stock valves are good to about 350hp then you have to worry about heat. SS valves so not flow ANY better, they are just less prone to the heat.

I asked him if he ever comes on here and he said he does, so hopefully we will hear from Joe himself.

He said he has tested all this on the flowbench, so I have no reason to doubt it...just shocked me. He does all the head work for Erick's Racing and they are hella fast.


[Modified by DIRep972, 8:46 PM 5/3/2002][/QUOTE]

2K_TEG

http://www.alaniztechnologies.com/

$875 for the headwork
$14.50ea for SS valves
$80 for inner springs

BodyKits NW

He is the only person I will recommend for headwork. I have talked to numorous people about headwork and I have even asked them all the same questions. I truly got the answers I was looking for when I was talking to Joe. He is not only a good porter, but he does know his honda heads and has tried multiple combinations. What I like about him is that he is always up for educating his customers. Like I said in a previous tread it is not necessary to open up the combistion chamber. I have a 2000 b16a2 head and he did pretty much the same thing you described above. Trust me, you can't go wrong. I'm going to be revvvvvinn and putting the power down. I'll post my stuff as soon as I get my parts that I ordered to finish things up. Glad you talked to him.


[Modified by BodyKits NW, 1:30 PM 5/3/2002]

MIKES

Does he do any work with B18A heads? because I see nothing on his site that supports this. I am looking for springs and retainers.

LsTurbo91

wow thanks for the info, I think that should settle that debate. Maybe you should call Portflow as well, see what they have to say about that

BodyKits NW

Trust me, I called them too and asked the question. I got a answer, but it was more like a generic answer. But there was no real answer, does that make sense lol.

2K_TEG

If you call and talk to Joe you will not want to send your head anywhere else. I just called him up, he had no clue who I was and he talked to me for about 30minutes. Try to get that out of some other shop. He backs up all his work on the flowbench too. I feel 100% confident letting him do my headwork. AND, I did try to call portflow (about 10 times) and I never got thru...just an answering machine.

2K_TEG

He is going to do my B18B head and there is no mention of it on his website. SO...probably. Give him a call.

2K_TEG

How bout the 9K redline?? Anyone know anything about that? Can a set of $80 inner springs raise my redline 2200 rpm? Thanks,

2K_TEG

Back up top

rioninja

Yes, since your still gonna be running stock cams. Without any extra lift, you wont be putting near as much additional strain on the valvetrain then say if you were gonna run some crowers.

earl

Just shows there is more than one way to get the job done.
I'm a little concerned about the stock retainers, however. If one were to break, say goodbye to the old LS.

Quaalude

the flowbench can be deceiving though....if a porter hoggs out a passage and removes a lot of metal, of course the head will flow better....knowing what areas to port and how much material to remove for optimum performance is the deciding factor....and it looks like Joe Alaniz knows what he is doing

2K_TEG

This is not neccessarily true. In some instances, less is more.

You, sir are right about that.

Quaalude

edit: i mean flow more

2K_TEG

Back up top for the racers just getting home.

Etylorcen

When i scrap some money together he will be getting my block too. You guys should of sent in your stuff when he first opened up shop he was giving some crazy discounts.