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Old 04-22-2003, 09:03 PM
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ACURA INTEGRA GS-R b18c1:
-Jackson Racing M62 Supercharger $2700.00
-Boost Upgrade Kit $545.00
-Liquid Intercooler System $270.00
-3" Carsound High-flow Cat $150.00
-Fidenza Lightened Flywheel (Still Looking) But I carry Clutch Master if you are
interested? Clutch Master FlyWheel is $305.60
-Greddy EVO Cat-Back Exhaust $ 505.99
-DC DAC Short Ram Intake $150.95
-RC 550cc Injectors $400.00
-ACT Stage III Clutch 380.10 ClutchMaster Stage III 490.50
-AEM Cam Gears $114.00
-NOS Import Kit Single Fogger 575.80 Direct Port $656.25

EDIT: i am going to get a kamikazee header and the s200 hondata with nitrous control, this company didn't have these 2 things so thats why they aren't listed.

EDIT: this is all going on a fully built engine (bored, honed, hot tanked, decked and fully blueprinted, Arias Pistons, Eagle Rods, ported head with 3 angle valve job, ported intake manifold, 72MM bore throttle body, mounts, tranny, ECU, lightened flywheel, and distributor...buying this motor from DH-Racing) i think i'm gonna keep the same compression as 10:1.

so are these prices any good? i just plan on buying everything i need from one company to save on shipping and to get a better discount...

anyways, i was pretty excited and just thought i'd share...


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Old 04-23-2003, 05:09 AM
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bump ^. suggestions and comments welcome!
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To me a lot of those prices seem high.
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yea right off the top of my head i can already think of getting the carsound from mike (kteller) and the 550s from viren. that right there is $250 plus shipping saved that could be spent elsewhere. do some more research and shopping around. i think if ur more patient and order from different places you'll save lots of money. i think the money u save will outweigh the convenience of ordering from one place by far. plus even if u order from one place all those parts will probably still come in at different times. either that or u'll wait a long time if they hold everything until each last part comes in
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98civicguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ACURA INTEGRA GS-R b18c1:
-Jackson Racing M62 Supercharger $2700.00
-Boost Upgrade Kit $545.00
-Liquid Intercooler System $270.00
-3" Carsound High-flow Cat $150.00
-Fidenza Lightened Flywheel (Still Looking) But I carry Clutch Master if you are
interested? Clutch Master FlyWheel is $305.60
-Greddy EVO Cat-Back Exhaust $ 505.99
-DC DAC Short Ram Intake $150.95
-RC 550cc Injectors $400.00
-ACT Stage III Clutch 380.10 ClutchMaster Stage III 490.50
-AEM Cam Gears $114.00
-NOS Import Kit Single Fogger 575.80 Direct Port $656.25

EDIT: i am going to get a kamikazee header and the s200 hondata with nitrous control, this company didn't have these 2 things so thats why they aren't listed.

EDIT: this is all going on a fully built engine (bored, honed, hot tanked, decked and fully blueprinted, Arias Pistons, Eagle Rods, ported head with 3 angle valve job, ported intake manifold, 72MM bore throttle body, mounts, tranny, ECU, lightened flywheel, and distributor...buying this motor from DH-Racing) i think i'm gonna keep the same compression as 10:1.

so are these prices any good? i just plan on buying everything i need from one company to save on shipping and to get a better discount...

anyways, i was pretty excited and just thought i'd share...


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eagel rods???

for the amount of $$$ your spending with that sc and the Nitrous kit
i would put a little bit more money for crower rods or pauwter-sp

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a supercharger????????????
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18cya &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a supercharger????????????</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah.. A supercharger?? WTF?

For the amount of money your throwing out here, your going to be VERY dissapointed!! ANd im mean seriously upset. A JRSC is a huge waste.

Go Boost! Or if you have a light car, go all motor. anything but SC..
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MaxBoost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Go Boost! Or if you have a light car, go all motor. anything but SC..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your car seems to be well built. The times are pretty repectable, yet you're spouting off like an uneducated idiot. Have you ever driven a well tuned jrsc car?
I have, and it's a blast. Not only that, but it has proven to be superior in many autoX's. It may not hit 12's in the 1/4 mile, but real racers like to turn.

&lt;end rant&gt;
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ACURA INTEGRA GS-R b18c1:
-Jackson Racing M62 Supercharger $2700.00 MaxRev Turbo Kit $3200
-Boost Upgrade Kit $545.00 -545.00
-Liquid Intercooler System $270.00 -270.00
-3" Carsound High-flow Cat $150.00 Test Pipe $50
-Fidenza Lightened Flywheel (Still Looking) But I carry Clutch Master if you are
interested? Clutch Master FlyWheel is $305.60 -305
-Greddy EVO Cat-Back Exhaust $ 505.99 Custom 3" Exhaust $400
-DC DAC Short Ram Intake $150.95 -150.00
-RC 550cc Injectors $400.00 RC 870cc $440.00
-ACT Stage III Clutch 380.10
-AEM Cam Gears $114.00 Any other brand of cam gears - 200.00
-NOS Import Kit Single Fogger 575.80 Direct Port $656.25 -656.25
EDIT: i am going to get a kamikazee header and the s200 hondata with nitrous control, this company didn't have these 2 things so thats why they aren't listed.

EDIT: this is all going on a fully built engine (bored, honed, hot tanked, decked and fully blueprinted, Arias Pistons, Eagle Rods, ported head with 3 angle valve job, ported intake manifold, 72MM bore throttle body, mounts, tranny, ECU, lightened flywheel, and distributor...buying this motor from DH-Racing) i think i'm gonna keep the same compression as 10:1.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I made some minor corrections above, with a sick motor like the one your quoting above, wasting money on a supercharger is a crime. At most with that setup on SC you'll make 300whp, AT MOST. Add a blockguard and turbo instead of SC, your looking at 400-450+whp no problems!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MaxBoost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I made some minor corrections above, with a sick motor like the one your quoting above, wasting money on a supercharger is a crime. At most with that setup on SC you'll make 300whp, AT MOST. Add a blockguard and turbo instead of SC, your looking at 400-450+whp no problems!
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With 400whp+ how long before a sleeve cracks?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98civicguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ACURA INTEGRA GS-R b18c1:
-Jackson Racing M62 Supercharger $2700.00
-Boost Upgrade Kit $545.00
-Liquid Intercooler System $270.00
-3" Carsound High-flow Cat $150.00
-Fidenza Lightened Flywheel (Still Looking) But I carry Clutch Master if you are
interested? Clutch Master FlyWheel is $305.60
-Greddy EVO Cat-Back Exhaust $ 505.99
-DC DAC Short Ram Intake $150.95
-RC 550cc Injectors $400.00
-ACT Stage III Clutch 380.10 ClutchMaster Stage III 490.50
-AEM Cam Gears $114.00
-NOS Import Kit Single Fogger 575.80 Direct Port $656.25
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These prices are pretty high compared to what I've found. Here are prices on just a few of the parts you have listed that I have found cheaper...

GReddy Evo Catback = $479.00
NOS Direct Port = $595.00
NOS Import Single Fogger = $499.00
RCE 550cc Injectors = $295.00
JRSC = $2,450.00

And who knows, you might even be able to find them cheaper that what I have found. Definitely don't purchase your parts through that company you have listed. You will save huge if you look around and purchase the parts seperatley from the places that offer the best price.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hypa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Your car seems to be well built. The times are pretty repectable, yet you're spouting off like an uneducated idiot. Have you ever driven a well tuned jrsc car?
I have, and it's a blast. Not only that, but it has proven to be superior in many autoX's. It may not hit 12's in the 1/4 mile, but real racers like to turn.

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a well tuned turbo car will be even faster, if he's really into autoX, get a correctly sized turbo. a well built turbo honda with more hp will 0wn a well built s/c honda. it just takes some practice.

supercharger + the $$$$$ you're spending =
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As a matter of fact I have a NOS Pro Race Fogger Direct Port nitrous kit I will sell you for $500 shipped. The kit is brand new and is only missing the 3/16" hardlines which you can purchase seperately for $50. If you're interested let me know.
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i do not want to go turbo. this is my daily driven car. this setup IMO is practially "bullet-proof/flawless". BUT, i'm thinking about not getting the motor all done out like that and that'll save me a few grand. i'm gonna get the stepper pulley and get 9-11psi, and i think that that amount will be fine with stock internals, and when i decide to hook up N20, i'll get the block and the head work done...although, that fully decked out motor is something to drool over
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bump ^ for more suggestions/comments...and don't even say go turbo, b/c i won't. not trying to start a whole Supercharger Vs. Turbo debate, BUT...IMO i think turbos are better for track purposes and an occasional friday night street race on some abandon back road at 11pm. a supercharger just fits what i want to do with the car...
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I wouldn't go SC.....especially if it was costing me that much!
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The words bullet-proof, flawless, supercharger, and nitrous shouldn't not be in the same sentence, especially when you are comparing it to a turbo setup. I'd say go for it if you just want to be different, but if you are looking for practicality either build a higher compression motor and spray on it, use just the SC, or go turbo. Since you are trying for reliability make your life easy and focus on one power adder. I'd say turbo because you can get horsepower in the high 200s relatively easily and still be reliable. You can do the same with nitrous but it will take a bit more extreme set up.
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especially when eagle rods are being used.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98civicguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i do not want to go turbo. this is my daily driven car. this setup IMO is practially "bullet-proof/flawless". BUT, i'm thinking about not getting the motor all done out like that and that'll save me a few grand. i'm gonna get the stepper pulley and get 9-11psi, and i think that that amount will be fine with stock internals, and when i decide to hook up N20, i'll get the block and the head work done...although, that fully decked out motor is something to drool over </TD></TR></TABLE>


Well, sounds like you've got it all figured out. In that case, why are you asking us newbs what we think? I'm not sure why a supercharger is better for your engine on a daily driver, but if you say so.

I mean, JRSC's produce like a billion degree intake air temp, especially at that boost level, that's definitely better for your engine than an intercooled turbocharger. Hello massive detonation.

Seriously though, this etup is not bullet proof (Eagle rods) and not flawless (JRSC). Do what makes you happy, but you should listen to everybody's advice (even though some of it needs to be taken with a grain of salt).
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I would go turbo for that amount of money. you will definitely be disappointed being Sc'd. might as well just spray it!!!
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superchargers are great... turbo's may be better but s/c's are a better fit for some people.
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Well, sounds like you've got it all figured out. In that case, why are you asking us newbs what we think? I'm not sure why a supercharger is better for your engine on a daily driver, but if you say so.

I mean, JRSC's produce like a billion degree intake air temp, especially at that boost level, that's definitely better for your engine than an intercooled turbocharger. Hello massive detonation.

Seriously though, this etup is not bullet proof (Eagle rods) and not flawless (JRSC). Do what makes you happy, but you should listen to everybody's advice (even though some of it needs to be taken with a grain of salt).</TD></TR></TABLE>

What about a non ICed turbo? Why compare non IC to IC.

Compare an IC'ed JRSC with an IC'ed turbo, then its a fair comparision.

Plus some people want to stay carb legal. So you got JRSC and Greddy turbo kit(non IC or BOV). How high are those greddy intake temps going to be? Since you can't have a BOV and stay legal, how about compressor surge?

JRSC is a great kit for people who don't have ways around emmisions.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98civicguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ACURA INTEGRA GS-R b18c1:
-Jackson Racing M62 Supercharger $2700.00
-Boost Upgrade Kit $545.00
-Liquid Intercooler System $270.00
-3" Carsound High-flow Cat $150.00
-Fidenza Lightened Flywheel (Still Looking) But I carry Clutch Master if you are
interested? Clutch Master FlyWheel is $305.60
-Greddy EVO Cat-Back Exhaust $ 505.99
-DC DAC Short Ram Intake $150.95
-RC 550cc Injectors $400.00
-ACT Stage III Clutch 380.10 ClutchMaster Stage III 490.50
-AEM Cam Gears $114.00
-NOS Import Kit Single Fogger 575.80 Direct Port $656.25

EDIT: i am going to get a kamikazee header and the s200 hondata with nitrous control, this company didn't have these 2 things so thats why they aren't listed.

EDIT: this is all going on a fully built engine (bored, honed, hot tanked, decked and fully blueprinted, Arias Pistons, Eagle Rods, ported head with 3 angle valve job, ported intake manifold, 72MM bore throttle body, mounts, tranny, ECU, lightened flywheel, and distributor...buying this motor from DH-Racing) i think i'm gonna keep the same compression as 10:1.

so are these prices any good? i just plan on buying everything i need from one company to save on shipping and to get a better discount...

anyways, i was pretty excited and just thought i'd share...


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you got an i"m

those prices are high!!
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I just bought a Quaife off there race car on Ebay two weeks ago. Never heard of them before. Got a hella deal, but I will agree those prices are high!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MachAF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What about a non ICed turbo? Why compare non IC to IC.

Compare an IC'ed JRSC with an IC'ed turbo, then its a fair comparision.

Plus some people want to stay carb legal. So you got JRSC and Greddy turbo kit(non IC or BOV). How high are those greddy intake temps going to be? Since you can't have a BOV and stay legal, how about compressor surge?

JRSC is a great kit for people who don't have ways around emmisions.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok, compare the Greddy kit with IC which is legal, and the Greddy will more than likely stomp the JRSC. Blow off valve...well, no smog ref is gonna know any better, but with those tiny turbos who needs a BOV anyway!


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