turbopanda

At first, it was gonna be an evo. But now is just not the right time to make the move, and considering the economic situation, I don't want to pressure my dad or put him in any more debts. I'm sticking with the Honda for now, atleast for another year..

For those of you who haven't been following the progress of my integra, the turbokit has been removed and been converted into a mildly-modified NA engine. With 4 hours of tuning on the dyno, my tuner managed to create 202HP at the wheels with 232Nm of torque. The thing is very fun to drive, I must admit - instant torque kick when you slam your foot down (thanks to the B20B + tuning skills of my tuner) but moving from turbo to NA has just kept me depressed. Now I find myself playing with NA-tuned hatchback EG Civics, and some of them can keep up with me, if not that, overtake me. My problem? Weight. The integra is just too damn heavy. I need something to help push the car harder. I need my turbo back.

I held myself back, after the disaster I had with the B20B when it was boosted (my fault) but after seeing this at my shop today, I felt saddened:






Running a custom-built turbokit with Link Engine Management and 9psi of boost, this little 1.6l miata produced almost 280HP. Hearing the blow-off and the whine of the turbo just made me miss the old days of my teg.

So, I made the decision today to gradually jump back to the world of turbo. I'll still be driving my NA B20B for a few months while I slowly build up my old B18C engine again. I'll be fixing up my old B18C shortblock (new sleeves, etc), and find a new head for it. Use my old JE/Eagle pistons + rods, but this time with more compression than the 8.1:1 I was running before - probably 8.5:1 or 9:1. By the time I have it built up, i'll just drop the car off at the shop for a couple days, and let them re-install the old B18C engine with the turbo.

If i'm gonna stick with Honda, its got to be turbocharged.

A quick question to those of you with Skunk2 intake manifolds - apparently, the one in my car is for a 1.8l GSR (B18C) - if I was to buy a B16A head, will it still fit, or would I be forced to try and source out another B18C head? B18C heads are kinda scarce and extremely hard to find over here, but there's a lot of B16A heads, and they are a lot cheaper - no matter which one I get, I'll still need to get the head port'n'polished. I'll be moving my ferrea valves and crower springs/retainers from my current engine to this engine when the time comes to swap it back in.

So will it fit? Any other precautions I should be taking this time around with the engine build-up/setup?

SiRkid

wooo hoo!
yeah!
what size is that turbo in the miata..woo hoo

FabulousSi

Damn I really liked that evo you were gonna get but you teg has always been one of my favorites ....GOOD LUCK BRO.

Diego Boost

Welcome back.

turbopanda

The turbo is a Garrett M24 - the turbo came from a Nissan Silvia S14 SR20DET engine. This particular kit your looking at actually came from my tuner's old miata, which I sat in when I first met him, and boy did that little miata pull amazingly hard I was shocked..

@irborne

that miata look mean! anyhow; i believe the skunk manifold would bolt on the b16 head.

turbopanda

that miata is such a sleeper too - no gauges in sight, stock rims, and the intercooler is so far behind the front bumper that you could easily mistaken it for a radiator, just like I did at the beginning - until I noticed my tuner's Link Engine Management tuning keypad sitting on the passenger-side seat - I asked him what was up with the "red miata" parked over there, and he just smiled at me with a devilish grin. So I popped the hood, and was just like "wow" - I didn't expect to find a snail mounted in the engine bay of a car that looked so... so stock..


[Modified by turbopanda, 5:22 AM 3/28/2003]

Diego Boost

Sleepers rock!

E Swift

I knew you couldn't stay away. Its too addicting.

714phil

your GSR skunk mani wont fit on a b16a head

HXMan

I would love a turbo miata!

Inline four, RWD....nice engine design...what else could you ask for?

Infinity_Racer

so does this mean you're going to sell (if you stopped, not sure?) the rod/piston combo again? i'll be getting another d16 soon (or summer time) to build up and wanted to try out your combo...

specie

As I said before, the Teg is such a pig. It won't be fun with a NA setup.

As stated in this post, a GSR intake manifold only fits on the GSR head. A b16 intake manifold fits on the (B17a, itr, and B16a1/2/3). And then the useless LS head only uses the ls im.

ridnmyhonda

boost

TheSwift1

question:

why are are u running such a low compression ratio? on a street car, i would never go anywhere lower than 9:1-9.5:1...

SiRkid

garret m24? dont all to4s housings (mayb eothers)have that stamped on them cause mine does and i know others do..that almost looks like a straight t4 with a to4s housing!

evoeone

agree, 8 something is too low, 8.5 at the lowest, but 9-9.5 is sweet,

turbod16y8

damn i knew you gonna be back.. get that teg boosted again.. or the civic.

MikeMAN

turbopanda, sell me ur b20

turbopanda

I just want a strong engine. I guess i'm safer with a lower compression. 9.1-9.5:1 sounds rather high for a boosted B18C - don't think i'd be able to boost a whole lot with that high a compression either I'm just scared something is gonna break again.

Turb0Minnow

Nice miata,
I havnt had mine for a year yet so no turbo. I also have yet to decide whether to keep it stock or boost it. I will probally run a Haltech instead of the Miata Link.

http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...=245801&page=1

BTW, last time I went to the track she weighed 2560 with driver, spare, jack, 1/2 tank of gas, and a 2 bags with work crap in the trunk. Not bad for a car with a/c, cruise, and leather

ekb18c

Come back to boost land...

TheSwift1

actually, the engine will be ALOT stronger with the higher compression...

keep in mind I say "higher"...ur not running a 11.5-11.5:1 compression here...
anything lower then 9:1 will result in a slug of a car off boost...being a Honda engine, we need all the torque we can get!

BTW...tuning is an issue with ANY setup...even if ur running 6:1 compression..


[Modified by TheSwift1, 12:35 AM 3/29/2003]

SiR Kid

C'mon Nathan! Join the land of the LIVING... er... mostly.... dead.... cars.

turbopanda

that is exactly the reason why I jumped out..