How well will a T3/60-1 work on a built ITR?
#1
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How well will a T3/60-1 work on a built ITR?
Using an Inline-Pro manifold, Arturbo type DP, 3"cat and 3" Thermal.
I know it probably won't spool for a while, but I'm looking for top end anyway!
And, which one and where can I get "decent" price on one?
Are these available in a BB center section.
I know it probably won't spool for a while, but I'm looking for top end anyway!
And, which one and where can I get "decent" price on one?
Are these available in a BB center section.
#3
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Re: How well will a T3/60-1 work on a built ITR? (Slow_ass_4dr)
I have a C& R twin fan radiator sitting here in my appt., still in the box.
At the moment I still plan on using the turbo that came with the Drag III kit for the ITR, with Hondata.
But I really only want to do this once, and then keep it running for a long time thereafter.
I'm sitting here trying to find some compressor maps and do a few calculations. Thanks, Ed.
P.S. the avatar pic is an old HKS unit for my 1st gen Si.
[Modified by Zygspeed, 9:40 PM 7/8/2002]
At the moment I still plan on using the turbo that came with the Drag III kit for the ITR, with Hondata.
But I really only want to do this once, and then keep it running for a long time thereafter.
I'm sitting here trying to find some compressor maps and do a few calculations. Thanks, Ed.
P.S. the avatar pic is an old HKS unit for my 1st gen Si.
[Modified by Zygspeed, 9:40 PM 7/8/2002]
#4
Re: How well will a T3/60-1 work on a built ITR? (Zygspeed)
Ed, IMO I think that turbo is too big for the road racing you want to do. Just a suggestion but I guess it doesnt hurt to try..
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#5
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Re: How well will a T3/60-1 work on a built ITR? (Arturbo)
Art, I'm sort of looking for top speed at this point.
And I'd like to be able to turn the motor to 9K or so, therefore the big pump.
Then again, this is my first turbo job so I shouldn't get too greedy.
Looks like I'll have to settle on roadracing either the 85 or 87 CRX Si's.
Thanks Art, ... Ed
I almost gave up the quest for doing 160-180, till I saw that T60-1 in the display case @ Inline-pro earlier today.
[Modified by Zygspeed, 9:51 PM 7/8/2002]
And I'd like to be able to turn the motor to 9K or so, therefore the big pump.
Then again, this is my first turbo job so I shouldn't get too greedy.
Looks like I'll have to settle on roadracing either the 85 or 87 CRX Si's.
Thanks Art, ... Ed
I almost gave up the quest for doing 160-180, till I saw that T60-1 in the display case @ Inline-pro earlier today.
[Modified by Zygspeed, 9:51 PM 7/8/2002]
#7
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Re: How well will a T3/60-1 work on a built ITR? (turbotypeR)
You will need to trim the fan mount brace near the compressor. If you are not going to boost 14~16psi the 60-1 compressor will be useless since that is the sweetspot for them. The control boost creep use a 2.5" dp with a 3" or larger exhaust,
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Re: How well will a T3/60-1 work on a built ITR? (Dee)
Thanks guys.
With respect to the fan, the C&R rad is not as thick as the Fluidyne's (only about as thick as stock), and the SPAL fans are rather thin as well.
I'm having an ITR block and crank built w/GE sleeves/rods/coated 9:1 pistons ... so I do plan on being able to run a bar or more depending on gasoline availability.
Frankly, I'll register the car in Ohio (instead of VA) if I have to.
With respect to the fan, the C&R rad is not as thick as the Fluidyne's (only about as thick as stock), and the SPAL fans are rather thin as well.
I'm having an ITR block and crank built w/GE sleeves/rods/coated 9:1 pistons ... so I do plan on being able to run a bar or more depending on gasoline availability.
Frankly, I'll register the car in Ohio (instead of VA) if I have to.
#9
Re: How well will a T3/60-1 work on a built ITR? (Zygspeed)
I already anticipated the shear size difference between my t3/t4 and the 60-1 t3, so i mounted auto zone fans in front of the radiator. Its a stock gsr double wide radiator with double 12" sucker fans. You might hit having the fans in front of the radiator, whenever the turbo arrives i will be able to see if keeping the fans as pullers will infact work.
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Re: How well will a T3/60-1 work on a built ITR? (boosted hybrid)
I saw a T3 60-1 earlier today and it didn't look that much bigger.
Then again it was still wrapped in a plastic bag and in a show case ... and there wasn't much else to compare it with at the time.
Then again it was still wrapped in a plastic bag and in a show case ... and there wasn't much else to compare it with at the time.
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Re: How well will a T3/60-1 work on a built ITR? (Zygspeed)
Check out this thread... https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=182303 . That gives a nice shot of the 60-1 t3, w/.63 a/r exhaust housing.
I had (sold) a t3/t4 54 trim, .48a/r exhaust...it was big, but would be dwarfed by the 60-1 t3 in that picture. There was a post by someone awhile back comparing a t3/t4 and 60-1 in the same pic...it was a noticable difference.
I had (sold) a t3/t4 54 trim, .48a/r exhaust...it was big, but would be dwarfed by the 60-1 t3 in that picture. There was a post by someone awhile back comparing a t3/t4 and 60-1 in the same pic...it was a noticable difference.
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Re: How well will a T3/60-1 work on a built ITR? (boosted hybrid)
Thanks for the pics/link.
Both/each of the Drag III and the Inline-pro manifolds have the T3 flange slanted a bit to allow room for the compressor (apparently).
Maybe I'll have to drop back down to Inline's shop again one of these days and see if they've fit a t3 60-1 in there without too much trouble.
I guess it should be bigger, right!!
Thanks for all the help.
btw- they wanted $899 for it. (the 60-1) Ed
Dee -- I see what you meant, interesting manifold too.
[Modified by Zygspeed, 12:02 AM 7/9/2002]
Both/each of the Drag III and the Inline-pro manifolds have the T3 flange slanted a bit to allow room for the compressor (apparently).
Maybe I'll have to drop back down to Inline's shop again one of these days and see if they've fit a t3 60-1 in there without too much trouble.
I guess it should be bigger, right!!
Thanks for all the help.
btw- they wanted $899 for it. (the 60-1) Ed
Dee -- I see what you meant, interesting manifold too.
[Modified by Zygspeed, 12:02 AM 7/9/2002]
#15
Re: How well will a T3/60-1 work on a built ITR? (Zygspeed)
Slow *** 4dr can get them for 600.00 shipped. I ordered mine from him, should be showing up anyday now. If you order one get the compressor in the to4b housing so there is minimal cutting, and .63a/r exhaust housing.
#16
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Re: How well will a T3/60-1 work on a built ITR? (boosted hybrid)
Slow *** 4dr can get them for 600.00 shipped. I ordered mine from him, should be showing up anyday now. If you order one get the compressor in the to4b housing so there is minimal cutting, and .63a/r exhaust housing.
Thanks everyone, good night. Ed
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Re: How well will a T3/60-1 work on a built ITR? (Zygspeed)
And I'd like to be able to turn the motor to 9K or so, therefore the big pump
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Re: How well will a T3/60-1 work on a built ITR? (DragIIDigital)
T3/T4e should be fine....you might have seen my dyno plot from last week, my lil t3/t4b did give up 1 bit even @ 8400
(because that's what came with the ITR Drag kit I bought used last year)
Yum Yum, .... Kiwi's
[Modified by Zygspeed, 12:28 AM 7/9/2002]
#22
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Re: How well will a T3/60-1 work on a built ITR? (TurboITR)
GT35?? why?? (3) 60-1/T3's can be purchased for the price of one GT35! If a GT has center housing problems you have to replace the entire turbo. If a normal center housing turbo encounters center housing problems you can overhaul it for less than $150. Yes, GT series turbos do fail! I have seen quite a few GT series turbos fail in the last couple of years! A GT3240 is big for a street driven Honda so a GT3540 would be a complete waste of money if you aren't boosting atleast 1.5bar of the happy pressure.
#24
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Re: How well will a T3/60-1 work on a built ITR? (TurboITR)
That excuse doesn't work with me since I launch in boost at 6500rpm. You street racer guys are funny. That 200~300rpm isn't worth $1200~1800$!
[Modified by Dee, 2:07 AM 7/9/2002]
[Modified by Dee, 2:07 AM 7/9/2002]