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Old 06-02-2006, 01:10 PM
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Default How much power is safe with 100 octane?

Right now I can't run leaded gas in my car because I have a tial 38mm wategate, and the highest octane I can find around here is 100. So how much power can I run safely with 100? My setup is:
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Old 06-02-2006, 05:56 PM
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ttt, anyone? I know there inst going to be an exact number I'm just looking for opinions.
Old 06-02-2006, 06:01 PM
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I asked my tuner the same question I run 9:1 comp and he said running 22psi would be the max he recomends and he tunes really conservitive. And max of around 16psi on 93. But it totaly depends on the tune/tuner. 18-20 sounds pretty reasonable to me. Donno if any of this helps
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Default Re: How much power is safe with 100 octane? (captainjdog)

Ive seen people make 400+ on 93 with about 16-18psi, so I would think possibally 500 with a good tuner. I guess how ever far the tuner wants to push it.
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am i missing something? what does leaded gas have to do with a 38 mm wastegate?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostismycrack &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">am i missing something? what does leaded gas have to do with a 38 mm wastegate?</TD></TR></TABLE>

it causes damage to the metal in the wastegate.....i think its tial that offers another valve for leaded gas

edit: http://www.tialsport.com/prod_wg_38.htm
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Default Re: How much power is safe with 100 octane? (92cxturbo)

Have seen high 4XXwhp with a couple cars. Too many variables. If you have access to Sunoco fuels you can get Sunoco 109 unleaded.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 0x64 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have seen high 4XXwhp with a couple cars. Too many variables. If you have access to Sunoco fuels you can get Sunoco 109 unleaded.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah I used to be able to get that but now the shop is closed and I dont now where else to get it from.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg crunkmonster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

it causes damage to the metal in the wastegate.....i think its tial that offers another valve for leaded gas

edit: http://www.tialsport.com/prod_wg_38.htm</TD></TR></TABLE>

i've run leaded c16 in my car with a tial 38 for years and never heard this before?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostismycrack &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i've run leaded c16 in my car with a tial 38 for years and never heard this before?</TD></TR></TABLE>
They make two valves for it one for leaded and one for unleaded. Maybe you have the leaded one. I'm thinking about just putting leaded in anyway. I might be getting a different wastegate soon.
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