How much can my ls vtec with pistons/rods handle? (details enclosed)
08-31-2005, 01:14 PM
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How much can my ls vtec with pistons/rods handle? (details enclosed)
With a good uberdata or chrome tune how much horsepower can my block handle with this setup...low boost daily drive ...high boost race....im looking to handle 350whp...can the block handle it?
ls vtec turbo setup
Block
Ls Block
Scat H Bream Rods
Race Bearings
Arp Rod Bolts
Arp Head Studs
Weisco 9:1 Compression Pistons
Oem Headgasket
Garrett T3/t4 57trim
Fuel
Walboro 255 Fuel pump
Dsm 450cc Injectors
Hayame Fuel Rail
Hayame Fuel Pressure Gauge and Modifier
ls vtec turbo setup
Block
Ls Block
Scat H Bream Rods
Race Bearings
Arp Rod Bolts
Arp Head Studs
Weisco 9:1 Compression Pistons
Oem Headgasket
Garrett T3/t4 57trim
Fuel
Walboro 255 Fuel pump
Dsm 450cc Injectors
Hayame Fuel Rail
Hayame Fuel Pressure Gauge and Modifier
08-31-2005, 01:35 PM
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Re: How much can my ls vtec with pistons/rods handle? (hotimportcrx)
im pretty sure the stock sleeves will handle 400-450whp.......you should be perfectly fine with the forged internals.
08-31-2005, 01:51 PM
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Re: How much can my ls vtec with pistons/rods handle? (hotimportcrx)
Just to be safer, you might also want to upgrade those injectors to 720 or higher and run hondata.
08-31-2005, 02:43 PM
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Re: How much can my ls vtec with pistons/rods handle? (hotimportcrx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hotimportcrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damm 720 i was thinking like 550's and uberdata...</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeas....well your 57 trim isnt too big at all
and i think the turbo will max out before the injectors
the injectors, when puished, should do 400whp
yeas....well your 57 trim isnt too big at all
and i think the turbo will max out before the injectors
the injectors, when puished, should do 400whp
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08-31-2005, 02:52 PM
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Re: How much can my ls vtec with pistons/rods handle? (m R g S r)
well the turbo is supposed to be good until 500whp but then again i dont wanna go that high without resleeving....i wanna be at like 350-400 horsepower...do you think this setup is capable of handeling 400 horses?
09-03-2005, 12:58 PM
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or how much can i handle if i decide to go with all thats listed above but stock ls pistons instead of the weisco 9:1 compression pistons
09-04-2005, 08:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hotimportcrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">or how much can i handle if i decide to go with all thats listed above but stock ls pistons instead of the weisco 9:1 compression pistons</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wouldn't push more than 300 if you want to keep it on pump gas.
I wouldn't push more than 300 if you want to keep it on pump gas.
09-04-2005, 10:53 AM
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but stock ls pistons do you think would be fine on scat h beam rods??? im looking to run 8psi daily......and 16 when i race...and thats on a t3/t4 57 trim turbo
09-04-2005, 11:57 AM
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Re: How much can my ls vtec with pistons/rods handle? (m R g S r)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m R g S r »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yeas....well your 57 trim isnt too big at all
and i think the turbo will max out before the injectors
the injectors, when puished, should do 400whp</TD></TR></TABLE>
We have a local car running our kit with a 57 trim making 430whp in a full interior Teg...11.3's @129 400whp on a 550's is really pushing it.
yeas....well your 57 trim isnt too big at all
and i think the turbo will max out before the injectors
the injectors, when puished, should do 400whp</TD></TR></TABLE>
We have a local car running our kit with a 57 trim making 430whp in a full interior Teg...11.3's @129 400whp on a 550's is really pushing it.
09-04-2005, 02:06 PM
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Re: How much can my ls vtec with pistons/rods handle? (PhoenixTurboJesse)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PhoenixTurboJesse »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We have a local car running our kit with a 57 trim making 430whp in a full interior Teg...11.3's @129</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just out of curiosity what psi did they have their EBC, MBC or WG set to? also was it pump or race gas? and last was it a Teg GSR or Teg LS? I'm guessing it was a GSR.
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Just out of curiosity what psi did they have their EBC, MBC or WG set to? also was it pump or race gas? and last was it a Teg GSR or Teg LS? I'm guessing it was a GSR.
TIA
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Re: How much can my ls vtec with pistons/rods handle? (BlueShadow)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueShadow »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Just out of curiosity what psi did they have their EBC, MBC or WG set to? also was it pump or race gas? and last was it a Teg GSR or Teg LS? I'm guessing it was a GSR.
TIA</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im not 100% sure but 16psi on race gas. I think its a 2.0L ls/vtec...not sure if its in a ls or gsr shell.
Just out of curiosity what psi did they have their EBC, MBC or WG set to? also was it pump or race gas? and last was it a Teg GSR or Teg LS? I'm guessing it was a GSR.
TIA</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im not 100% sure but 16psi on race gas. I think its a 2.0L ls/vtec...not sure if its in a ls or gsr shell.
09-04-2005, 02:25 PM
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Re: How much can my ls vtec with pistons/rods handle? (PhoenixTurboJesse)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PhoenixTurboJesse »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im not 100% sure but 16psi on race gas. I think its a 2.0L ls/vtec...not sure if its in a ls or gsr shell.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Dang I was hoping it would have been pump gas. I as just trying to see if there was still a chance my 1.9L GSR with T3/T4E .63 ar/60 trim could make it past 400 WHP on pump gas.
Dang I was hoping it would have been pump gas. I as just trying to see if there was still a chance my 1.9L GSR with T3/T4E .63 ar/60 trim could make it past 400 WHP on pump gas.
09-04-2005, 02:30 PM
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Re: How much can my ls vtec with pistons/rods handle? (BlueShadow)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueShadow »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Dang I was hoping it would have been pump gas. I as just trying to see if there was still a chance my 1.9L GSR with T3/T4E .63 ar/60 trim could make it past 400 WHP on pump gas. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Like i said im not 100% sure....Theres no reason why you couldn't do 400whp on pump with your setup.
http://store.yahoo.com/cheapturbo/de20dsis24.html
Thats with a 57 trim @ 16psi 91 octane on a 1.8L
Good luck
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Dang I was hoping it would have been pump gas. I as just trying to see if there was still a chance my 1.9L GSR with T3/T4E .63 ar/60 trim could make it past 400 WHP on pump gas. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Like i said im not 100% sure....Theres no reason why you couldn't do 400whp on pump with your setup.
http://store.yahoo.com/cheapturbo/de20dsis24.html
Thats with a 57 trim @ 16psi 91 octane on a 1.8L
Good luck
Jesse
09-04-2005, 09:28 PM
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Re: How much can my ls vtec with pistons/rods handle? (hotimportcrx)
Why is it that everyone wants to know what x and x combo will make? Check out what others have done up to this point (there is no shortage of info on this matter) and find out how they were able to create that kind of power. Over and over you will find out that the biggest factors tend to be proper tuning and proper assembly of the motor/setup.
There are plenty of stock B series motors that have made 400+ hp even some on pump gas, a handful of 500 even 600+ hp stock sleeved cars. Its all about taking your time and doing it right. But then again there are low 12 second cars and I'm sure even faster with 250 hp and plenty of those with stock D series motors. So much has been done in the Honda world in the last few years, just set your goals for what you want to do and learn from what others have done.
There are plenty of stock B series motors that have made 400+ hp even some on pump gas, a handful of 500 even 600+ hp stock sleeved cars. Its all about taking your time and doing it right. But then again there are low 12 second cars and I'm sure even faster with 250 hp and plenty of those with stock D series motors. So much has been done in the Honda world in the last few years, just set your goals for what you want to do and learn from what others have done.
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Re: How much can my ls vtec with pistons/rods handle? (porsche997dc2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by porsche997dc2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just to be safer, you might also want to upgrade those injectors to 720 or higher and run hondata.
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Going with hondata won't make it any safer, it will just be more expensive.
Nice try though.
I do agree bigger injectors should be used though. As far as sleeving goes if your going to be at the track and running high boost a lot you might want to look into aftermarket sleeves, but if this will mostly be a daily driver you should be fine. 600+ horsepower has been done on stock sleeves, so stock sleeves will work with your goals. Just get your car tuned well.
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Going with hondata won't make it any safer, it will just be more expensive.
Nice try though.
I do agree bigger injectors should be used though. As far as sleeving goes if your going to be at the track and running high boost a lot you might want to look into aftermarket sleeves, but if this will mostly be a daily driver you should be fine. 600+ horsepower has been done on stock sleeves, so stock sleeves will work with your goals. Just get your car tuned well.
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