JusT a Cx

heres the set-up and was just wondering with a stock block what kinda boost i can run.... i see people on here say 14-15 and some tell me 10 is max..what do u guys say and any expierence would be nice tooooo

jdm b16a sir-2
drag gen 3 turbo,Dp,wastegate
spark racing intercooler 29x10x3
accel 440cc injectors
arp headstuds
cometic headgasket
msd 6al ignaition w/blaster coil
hondata s200/w boost and tuned!!
greddy profec b controller
apex turbo timer
missing link for the map
gsr cams

with this set up and my tuning (going down april 25th)
what do u guys think i can push...like i was gonna just run 10psi daily but if i can go to 14-15psi thatd be greeaat input please

baphomet

You mean how much horsepower will it handle right?

1.8turbolsvtec

ok just to let you know that you will not used a missing link with hondata and if you used the stock map sensor you will not be able to go past 12psi because you will get a cel have fun

HXMan

Yeap, you can sell that missing link.

But you will need a 3bar map sensor to run over 11-12psi.

Ntrpriz

I run 14.9 pounds on the stock map sensor. A 3 bar is not nessasary unless you want more.

11psiTurboSI

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stock honda map will only read 11.2psi..... sorry bro

shotty

I have a 3mm headgasket and blockguard on a stock bottom end b16 and have run up to 21psi so far on pump 93 octane. Stock bottom end is usually good for ~300whp.

Green JDM-R

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It's not a question of how much power it can take. It's how much power it can take and last a while reliably.

JusT a Cx

so with my s200 and a good tune i can run like 14 psi safely ?? you guys agree or no ??????

MikeMAN

PSI is totally irrelavant..
.
it depends on how much POWER you are making..

mike

TurboJesse

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JusT a Cx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so with my s200 and a good tune i can run like 14 psi safely ?? you guys agree or no ??????</TD></TR></TABLE>

You don't seem to understand. PSI is basically meaningless (other than map sensor and turbo efficency) with a thicker headgasket/ARP's theres no reason you couldn't make ~350whp safely...But you will need a 3bar map sensor (as it will take over ~11psi) and larger injectors. with the injectors you have you will be limited to ~+/- 300whp.

baphomet

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MikeMAN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">PSI is totally irrelavant..
.
it depends on how much POWER you are making..

mike</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mpir3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You don't seem to understand. PSI is basically meaningless (other than map sensor and turbo efficency) with a thicker headgasket/ARP's theres no reason you couldn't make ~350whp safely...But you will need a 3bar map sensor (as it will take over ~11psi) and larger injectors. with the injectors you have you will be limited to ~+/- 300whp.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yellowhonda88

about 300 , I have seen more, but I would be far too nervous to drive it like that everyday.

Brett

JusT a Cx

iam actually totally new to this turbo thing and dont have the terms down iam sorry guys .. just work with me.... soo i can make about 300whp with my set up and my 440 injectors but how do i get a 3 bar map thingy or whatever &gt;??300whp is what i wanted to reach next sat on my tune date

HXMan

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JusT a Cx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">iam actually totally new to this turbo thing and dont have the terms down iam sorry guys .. just work with me.... soo i can make about 300whp with my set up and my 440 injectors but how do i get a 3 bar map thingy or whatever &gt;??300whp is what i wanted to reach next sat on my tune date</TD></TR></TABLE>

I dont know if Payn will want to push it that far. Maybe though.

r7

252whp @ ~7psi , runs great.


with that gasket and studs, i'd go for 10psi, should be able to make some good #'s as long as the motor is @ good compression already.

superstud

300whp will be pushing it with those injectors. plus you can sell them and upgrade for like 50-100bucks. that's cheap insurance!

JusT a Cx

well i would have liked to see 300whp but i wanna for sure break 12's ...i'll be running drag radials.... iam pretty confident in my driving that i can do it...... we'll see ... tune date is..........T-minus 6days

m R g S r

If you a good driver, have good tires, and good suspension, and your car doesn't weigh a ton, you can break 12's with 300whp.

JrCRXHF

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I dont know if Payn will want to push it that far. Maybe though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have a pretty close setup and put down 217 whp on the mustang dyno with a b16 at 7psi and tom said that was good power for only 7psi. but from what i have been told the motors open deck is the weak point at 300whp.

hybrid93SIvic

a guy here in town (tucson) who i am cool with runs a custom set up consiting of mainly inline pro goodies, has his pretty much stock b16 block (3mm headgasket and a blockguard) tuned and runs 17 pounds....like i said all on a pretty much stock block...tuning is the key

JusT a Cx

research i have been doing , i seen 5th gen hatchs like mine with full interior and same set up pretty much ... they tuned in at like 260whp and on drag radials ran 12.4!!!!! another guy on here with stock b16 and just the bolt on drag gen 3 turbo ran 12.5 with slicks............ all iam shootin for is 12's.... iam pretty confident,
how much diff is a mustang dyno from a normal dyno jet???? how much hp can i add on to my dyno after Tom's done with my car?????
T-minus 5 days......

kpt4321

The guys who have said that the power matters and not boost pressure are right. For more information, check this out:

http://users.wpi.edu/~ktarry/d....html

On the stock map sensor you can't run more than 11 psi, regardless of power level. Above that the stock MAP sensor goes static, and you'll lean out.

TurboJesse

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but from what i have been told the motors open deck is the weak point at 300whp. </TD></TR></TABLE>

maybe @ 500whp...not 300 though.

JusT a Cx

hey about that missing link...i can get rid of it eh??? my s200 will take care of any CEL's ??????????????? some one break it down please....
T-minus 4 days...................


Modified by JusT a Cx at 8:47 PM 4/19/2004