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Old 03-15-2004, 04:59 AM
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Default How many guys out there are running turbo without lsd??

Sup all,

I'm going to be boosting my gsr...aiming for about 250-300whp. What is traction going to be like without lsd??!!? non-existent?!
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i have a boosted LS in a 95 hatch. i made 242whp and 221wtq. lets just say i dont know what traction is. on a stock clutch i not only chirp 2nd but i just keep peeling out all the way to 50 or 60mph. i have to get a vid of this because its some wack crap lol.
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Default Re: How many guys out there are running turbo without lsd?? (civicflnum1)

GSR 270WHP 174 TQ @10psi I can break the tires loose anytime in second. After taking my car to the track a few times I can tell that I would get a much better launch WITH and lsd. My 60ft times(on stock tires) are pretty bad 2.3, 2.4 sometimes...spinning tire like crazy unless you feather the clutch perfect. With an lsd they are like 2.1 if you launch shitty and sometimes you can snag a 1.7 and thats pretty tight work.

My next tranny will have one.
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Default Re: How many guys out there are running turbo without lsd?? (mike1114)

You can see the numbers in my sig. I shift out of first at around 5000 rpms otherwise I feel like I am defeating my purpose. If I go full throttle into second the tires will immediately burn. So you have to feather it. 3rd chirps hard and then the fun begins
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Default Re: How many guys out there are running turbo without lsd?? (RedTegLS)

post the vid.....when u guys are breaking loose in first and second...are u launching or shifting hard?? or just getting on the throttle?
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Default Re: How many guys out there are running turbo without lsd?? (Chillinit)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chillinit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">post the vid.....when u guys are breaking loose in first and second...are u launching or shifting hard?? or just getting on the throttle?</TD></TR></TABLE>

it is breaking loose on all of those. mine does.. well did. now it dont run....lol

Get lsd in it.. open diff suxs..
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I have no lsd. I hate peg leggin in a burn out.
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311whp and no LSD. I have nothing in first when I floor it, second aint too shabby, sometimes I spin tires but when it grips, it flies.
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Default Re: How many guys out there are running turbo without lsd?? (Hoodwinked)

At 10 psi I made 216whp/181tq and I run it around 8-9 psi daily. On the street in first gear my tires break loose around 5k rpms, in second gear they break loose around 6k rpms, and I chirp third gear. If I even think about launching the car the tires will break loose so it's pretty much useless in first and second gear on the street lol. I guess I could give it half throttle, but that's no fun. I am running shitty all season tires though. I have drag radials, but I am just waiting until I get my LSD to try them out. The main reason I am getting an LSD is so I can do some cool two wheel burnouts.
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no LSD. too poor.
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where is the best place to get an OEM lsd tranny. Im sure hmotoronline has them, but they dont list any.

anyone have some general prices?

and maybe a good place to get one?
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anyone else?
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you can buy any tranny straight from honda for about 2k as for the type r with lsd it was like 5k
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Default Re: How many guys out there are running turbo without lsd?? (Chillinit)

Am i the only one able to get the trann to lock both wheels with torque? I have a GSR tranny and i barely ever spin only one tire? normally both break free. is the gsr a lsd and i just dont know about it?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by envision2teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">where is the best place to get an OEM lsd tranny. Im sure hmotoronline has them, but they dont list any.

anyone have some general prices?

and maybe a good place to get one?</TD></TR></TABLE>

you could get a quafie for nearly the same price
and have a lifetime warranty on it
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Had LSD hatch with 220whp

Now have no LSD in GSR with 300+hp.

Really is not that big of a deal. On my 16" Azenis, 1st gear takes practice, but I cut 2.2 60ft on them in a 3K lb car(gross). 2.0 60ft on BFG's, and great traction on the street.

The time you will notice no LSD is if you get on it in a corner, or on fun curvy roads is you are REALLY boosting.
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The OEM ITR LSD is not designed for boosted applications. My friend had one in his JRSC GSR with a little NX, it lasted maybe 1 season at the track.
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Default Re: How many guys out there are running turbo without lsd?? (GForceInteg)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GForceInteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Am i the only one able to get the trann to lock both wheels with torque? I have a GSR tranny and i barely ever spin only one tire? normally both break free. is the gsr a lsd and i just dont know about it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

what kinda of power are u making and are u sure u don't have a jdm gsr tranny?
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Default Re: How many guys out there are running turbo without lsd?? (Chillinit)

Now that I have an LSD, once boost builds in the corner both wheels break free and I go straight. Rather then one spin and the other directing me.
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Default Re: How many guys out there are running turbo without lsd?? (shotty)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shotty &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Now that I have an LSD, once boost builds in the corner both wheels break free and I go straight. Rather then one spin and the other directing me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so are u saying its worse?
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94 coupe w/ d16z6 @11psi... no clue what kinda horsepower... just running hack. 1st is pointless... second is questionable at times... don't even bother in the rain.
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Default Re: How many guys out there are running turbo without lsd?? (Chillinit)

8 psi on d16z6

1gear and 2nd gear will peal out to redline way too easy. it has to be feathered perfectly or with drag radials, it hooks up like lsd.


im looking for a quaife lsd,

i run 14.1 quartermile at 5000 feet above sea level.
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Default Re: How many guys out there are running turbo without lsd?? (GForceInteg)

I share my opinion with these guys, its not that bad in a straight line. Powering through a turn though it is pretty bad. I think thats where it would be most worth it. Im considering getting one next week or so just because im planning on shortening my gear ratio and adding another 50 hp so every little thing is going to help.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GForceInteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Am i the only one able to get the trann to lock both wheels with torque? I have a GSR tranny and i barely ever spin only one tire? normally both break free. is the gsr a lsd and i just dont know about it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Reilly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Had LSD hatch with 220whp
Now have no LSD in GSR with 300+hp.

Really is not that big of a deal. On my 16" Azenis, 1st gear takes practice, but I cut 2.2 60ft on them in a 3K lb car(gross). 2.0 60ft on BFG's, and great traction on the street.

The time you will notice no LSD is if you get on it in a corner, or on fun curvy roads is you are REALLY boosting.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hoodwinked &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">311whp and no LSD. I have nothing in first when I floor it, second aint too shabby, sometimes I spin tires but when it grips, it flies</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ptran13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The OEM ITR LSD is not designed for boosted applications. My friend had one in his JRSC GSR with a little NX, it lasted maybe 1 season at the track.</TD></TR></TABLE>

None of the Honda trannys or LSD's were designed for boost.

I run a stock peg legged B16 tranny and run decent times on the track. Like was said before the only time you will notice a huge difference is in the corners with the inside tire.
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