Hondata S200B and AEM UEGO
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Hondata S200B and AEM UEGO
Well I'm gonna be goin with the Hondata S200 and use the AEM UEGO when I get the car tuned.
The thing is... I heard someone say the AEM UEGO and Hondata will NOT work together. Is this true?
The thing is... I heard someone say the AEM UEGO and Hondata will NOT work together. Is this true?
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Re: Hondata S200B and AEM UEGO (Bob-DC2)
you have to create "method" black box, he was a trail user on here and created a website on a voltage divider. The reason being, hondata can only see 0-3.84v, 14.7:1 on the AEM is 4.00v or something a little higher, so if you are running lean you will never know it, therefore you ahve to create a voltage divider or just get a PLX M300 and not have to do anything and have a perfect linar curve where the AEM isn't.
The PLX>AEM system anyday.
The PLX>AEM system anyday.
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Re: Hondata S200B and AEM UEGO (seen4ever)
Yeah but the AEM UEGO is more accurate. Call Ford Cosworth in Torrance and see what UEGOs they use on their engine dyno and ask how accurate they are.
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Re: Hondata S200B and AEM UEGO (seen4ever)
but the UEGO is a stand-alone unit. It plugs into an O2 bung and reads the Wideband so you can Fine tune it.
I don't see how it can't be used for tuning with Hondata.
I don't see how it can't be used for tuning with Hondata.
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Re: Hondata S200B and AEM UEGO (B00ST2nR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B00ST2nR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but the UEGO is a stand-alone unit. It plugs into an O2 bung and reads the Wideband so you can Fine tune it.
I don't see how it can't be used for tuning with Hondata.</TD></TR></TABLE>
re-read my post, its output range is greater than what the hondata can accept. IE you will only have accurate reading from 13.6:1 down. that's not good for tuning.
i've had both units, i sold the AEM for the PLX wideband. Also to the person that said the AEM is better, hondata can only see a linear line, so it actually cannot get a direct reading from the AEM, it ends up finding the closes value since the AEM output isn't linear. Also both AEM and PLX use the exact same wideband o2 sensor.
you can get the AEM, but if you car is ever leaner than 13.6:1 you will not know it unless you put the voltage divider that 'method' created, you can search for it on here or on 'theoldone.com' forum.
I don't see how it can't be used for tuning with Hondata.</TD></TR></TABLE>
re-read my post, its output range is greater than what the hondata can accept. IE you will only have accurate reading from 13.6:1 down. that's not good for tuning.
i've had both units, i sold the AEM for the PLX wideband. Also to the person that said the AEM is better, hondata can only see a linear line, so it actually cannot get a direct reading from the AEM, it ends up finding the closes value since the AEM output isn't linear. Also both AEM and PLX use the exact same wideband o2 sensor.
you can get the AEM, but if you car is ever leaner than 13.6:1 you will not know it unless you put the voltage divider that 'method' created, you can search for it on here or on 'theoldone.com' forum.
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Re: Hondata S200B and AEM UEGO (seen4ever)
Basically if you have a hondata your best option is going to be the PLX wideband. It's priced well and it works perfectly with hondata. Most people with a hondata use that anyways.
The AEM Uego is best suited for the AEM system. That is what I got for my AEM EMS. Like seen4ever stated you can use it, but your better off with the PLX, FJO, etc etc.
The AEM Uego is best suited for the AEM system. That is what I got for my AEM EMS. Like seen4ever stated you can use it, but your better off with the PLX, FJO, etc etc.
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Okay you guys still have not backed up any of your information about he AEM UEGO wideband controller at all. No not all widebands are the same, no they will not all read the same. Their is accuracy, speed of the sensor and also the right programming and hardware(Chips) that the sensors use to read correctly. As for the accuracy of our system I know for a fact we are one of the only companies who use the sensor correctly why because we buy all of our sensors and chips from Bosch themselves and work very closely with them. Because a system cannot be used with the stock Honda system doesn't mean it is worse maybe the Honda system is bad because they can't use our sensor. The Honda ECU was designed for one sensor and some can mimmick this range of the sensor, but is iit right. No. Once again our controllers and sensors are used by Ford Cosworth maybe you have heard of them they build motors for F1, CART, Indy and many other forms of racing. Our controllers have been tested by friends at Honda, Cosworth and many other places for accuracy and they always come back with the same results they were dead on and in most cases responded more quickly than their units they have. These tests are not done on cars, but with Gas analyzing machines.
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Well to end this no the AEM controller unit will not work with the Hondata. I have talked to Hondata to try and some up with a solution for this and it is a no go.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rtype16 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well to end this no the AEM controller unit will not work with the Hondata. I have talked to Hondata to try and some up with a solution for this and it is a no go.</TD></TR></TABLE>
so the original question that was asked above was can someone use the hondata s200b with an AEM wideband and you finally just answered the question. We can get into a dick measuring contest all day long, but in the end, unless you create a voltage multiplier or convence honda to recall all ECUs that are OBD1 and change the circuitry to accept 0-5v signals, then the PLX or techedge is the best solution. Also, i've taken my car to a dyno with a 5000 buck gas analzyer, we had dead on the same readings with his wideband and my PLX unit.
so the original question that was asked above was can someone use the hondata s200b with an AEM wideband and you finally just answered the question. We can get into a dick measuring contest all day long, but in the end, unless you create a voltage multiplier or convence honda to recall all ECUs that are OBD1 and change the circuitry to accept 0-5v signals, then the PLX or techedge is the best solution. Also, i've taken my car to a dyno with a 5000 buck gas analzyer, we had dead on the same readings with his wideband and my PLX unit.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coinfin »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Man, i have to say one thing. If you couldnt understand what i said about the AEM WB and working with the honda ECU, you shouldnt be tuning ANY CAR!!!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not the one who's going to tune my car. The local Hondata tuner will be doin that. I just need all the right parts and engine management for him to use, and that's what I'm askin around for.
Now I see that the AEM UEGO will not work, so I'll have to go with the PLX unit.
Calm down... this is why Honda-Tech is here. So that we can learn about ****.
I'm not the one who's going to tune my car. The local Hondata tuner will be doin that. I just need all the right parts and engine management for him to use, and that's what I'm askin around for.
Now I see that the AEM UEGO will not work, so I'll have to go with the PLX unit.
Calm down... this is why Honda-Tech is here. So that we can learn about ****.
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