buck02

like the post says hondata has forgotten the obd1 guys there just are focusing on k-pro i really wish they would go 5 bar cause there are a hand full of guys i know maxing out the 3 bar on the hondata so if anyone has inside coneection to kick them in the *** to step it up please do and keep us posted

buck02

that means u too uglyasscivic

mrDFWmechanic

5bar would be like how much psi ??

LostSolVTEC

1 bar = 14.5ish PSI, i'm too lazy to do teh math

Mase

5 bar, you would have 58 psi of boost. and 14.5 psi of vac.

LostSolVTEC

mase i thought vacuum was measured in inches of mercury?

Mase

it can be measured in which ever way u want. but when u break it down, map sensor read negative and positive pressure. you hear the term 3 bar. well that reads 1 bar of negative pressure (vac) and 2 of positive (up to 29 psi).

LostSolVTEC

i kinda figured that but never really knew...thanks mase

i learn something new everyday

tommyten

I would like them to upgrade to 5 bar also...I went up to 27psi last time on the dyno...If not I will have to move on to something better.

PM-Performance

i was told the 5bar will work with Hondata, but they said if you have issues with it, they wont support it.

blundar

if you do a quick little bit of math, you can modify the MAP scale of a 3bar MAP to work with a 5bar sensor. remember, MAP sensors are essentially linear beasts... Algebra... or even just fractions

buck02

matt from hondata told me yes it will hold a 5 bar but u can map it or some **** like that after u max out the 3bar
the reason i wantthe 5 bar because my turbo and others still running a hondata there and my turbo wont wake up and make good power till after 27psi actuall up here or 32psi in lower atomoshere so mase if u have ran a 5 bar please inform or anyone that has inside connection with hondat please kick them in the *** and get them to please work on this for us and put the kpro down for a dew and just finish and refine what they started

if not there are a bunch bout to go to NEPTUNE

Muckman

iTrader: (2)

Who are these people maxing out 3 bar MAP sensors? What turbo do you have that doesnt get efficient until 27psi?! Time to think about a different turbo?

buck02

well let see jasen penman is running something like a pt74 and is maxing it out
courtney green pt71 and maxing it out so there are a few and with turbo like those i have a gt40/t4 and they really dont wake up till 27psi and kick hard

FredoSP

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by buck02 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well let see jasen penman is running something like a pt74 and is maxing it out
courtney green pt71 and maxing it out so there are a few and with turbo like those i have a gt40/t4 and they really dont wake up till 27psi and kick hard </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll agree but I doubt those guys are using Hondata, I'm sure they are using something like MOTEC, FAST, DFI gen 7, AUTRONIC, blah blah....

FredoSP

Also, doesn't hondata have a limit to 1000cc injectors? (I could be wrong tho)

buck02

sorry man there all still on hondata just like meadn there the ones convinced me to convert my motec m4 pro to hondata
i race with both those guys i know whats in there car my friend there good friends so man hate to tell ya but most are still on the hondata its a great system but needs to be tweaked a little or all of us are going Neptune

FredoSP

lol dude I have hondata too :rolls eyes: I was just saying, once u start making crazy crazy power, you'll generally go with the above mentioned products.

Bulldogg83

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I'll agree but I doubt those guys are using Hondata, I'm sure they are using something like MOTEC, FAST, DFI gen 7, AUTRONIC, blah blah....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually Jason Penman is running Hondata.

buck02

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FredoSP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol dude I have hondata too :rolls eyes: I was just saying, once u start making crazy crazy power, you'll generally go with the above mentioned products.</TD></TR></TABLE>

why would u go with a diffrent comuter if u go with big numbers thats why they need to step up and take care there **** and they wont loose good customers like good sfwd racers and others the system is a great system just needs to be tweaked some thats it

B18C1CYA

that new neptune program can run a 5bar map sensor,

buck02

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C1CYA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that new neptune program can run a 5bar map sensor, </TD></TR></TABLE>

yes it can and much more the nitrous option gives u able to tune each map for the nitrous and much much more and so detailed and clear it seems to be a nice program

DIRep972

iTrader: (1)

I love Hondata. I talked to Doug at SEMA about the 5bar and they DO have plans to upgrade the software to display the right values sometime in the 05'... In the meantime we just have to convert it ourselves Its not that hard really.

btw, neptune also gets a from me. I really wanna get a chance to use this system, but I can't tell what the heck is going on at all about the distribution of it.

Kwuaymaikrup

I am maxxed out on the 3 bar as well. I like the Hondata due to the fact that it is basically plug and play and virtually everyone tunes it. I have strongly considered going to F.A.S.T. or Autotronic but if Hondata came out with 5 bar support I wouldn't even consider switching management sytems. The way it looks right now I "could" make more power after 28 psi but replacing the whole harness to accomidate a new system doesn't seem like much fun right now.

buck02

lets get hondata omn track with this **** and see if they will stay in the game on top of things