11psiTurboSI

Modified by 11psiTurboSI at 12:04 AM 1/30/2007

Rah Rah

8.8:1 is very low compression. Why'd you go so low? Also, forget for one moment the Drag manifold, that torque curve is terrible. This car just needs a better tuner. What's the A/F ratio? Some of the tuners might want to chime in here. I'm not familiar with AEM, but I'm assuming that it controls the boost.


Modified by Rah Rah at 11:24 AM 4/20/2004

Arturbo

Looks like a bad tune.. But what do I know?

BoostedsiR

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Art is ******* hilaroius

FredoSP

i see u have the aem ems, ask mase if he would look over your log files from your dyno runs.

Care to say who tunned it?

G"UNIT

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torr

who tuned it for you at elite?

11psiTurboSI

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Shane

AspectIndustries

Be nice to get larger injectors, for higher numbers...

But most likely, the drag manifold, should affect it.... Ive seen Good results from Drag, none the less...

11psiTurboSI

yea... 440cc arent good for more then 280-300hp!

rondigs

That A/F ratio looks pretty bad...

V-SPEC 1

that's right.

rocket256

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I was thinking the same thing! Or you just need a bigger turbo!!!!

SiRkid

dude, who cares? your motor is built . you now have a Nice custom boost controller

mamaboy

17.5 A/F get that fixed. I'm surprised your motor hasn't melted something yet. Tow the car to get it fixed. That's extremely lean

99B16Si

WTF are u guys talking about the tune does not look that bad. the a/f ratio never went near 17.5:1, look at the friggin chart. the motor was seeing about 13.5:1 a/f while under practically no load whatsoever. once the boost came in the a/f stayed pretty constant, the first chart in between 11.7-12.2 the whole way and maybe a little lean on the second one as it looks like it got to around 12.5 or so up top but nothing ridiculous as everyone is making it out to be. on the first graph who knows why it was choppy up top....maybe shitty spark plug gap, and then it was fixed on the next run, its hard to say. the boost spike has nothing to do with the tuning as long as the boost option was not being used in the aem which i doubt it was

everyone needs to stop talking **** when then dont even know anything, poor ****** tuners cant win these days

PS i have nothing to do with this car or nayone who tuned it but im sick of hearing everyone criticize someone elses work without knowing ****. listen to yourselves its awful

TurboTegB18c

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I don't think that the a/f is at 17.5, possibly that's an error on the dyno chart. From the looks of it, it's lean from 2700rpm to 4000rpm. Even at that the a/f goes up to around 14:1, no where near 17.5 as the a/f ration max states. I've also tuned a few cars with the creeping problem with the drag manifold, one creeped from 7-11psi and one from 9-11psi, all steadily creeping up.

On this vehicle, creeping from 7-18/19psi is pretty drastic. I would be worried if i were u.

99B16Si

also try port matching the wastegate to the manifold...thatll probably help if not solve the problem

Del_Slowest

i thought it looks like it's going into the 11.5 afr too much, a lil too rich. But i'm not a tuner so on my opinions.

*Boostwerks*

Your tune sucks. I would try and smooth the curve out closer to 12:1.

Did they tune the timing?

99B16Si

keep in mind how broad the graph is for the a/f ratio. most of u are used to looking at something scaled to a forth of the size which makes it look at lot smoother. flucuating a half a point in your a/f ratio from full boost to redline is not bad...could be smoothed out easily but not a terrible thing

turbo*s2k

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I was thinking the same thing! Or you just need a bigger turbo!!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Those injectors are probably close to being maxed out, but a bigger turbo I don't agree. That one is capable of putting down 400 easily. I have a similar setup, and my power didn't increase until I turned up the boost. I was still a little dissappointed though. I see so many people on the board putting down more power then I am on less boost, and my car was tunned by Bubba "shaking my head."

Good luck

mamaboy

oops, didn't see the A/F chart on the right side

11psiTurboSI

The 17.5a/f you guys can ignore... but as far as the timing he did mess with it, what he did I don't know! He told me because of the creep it was hard to tune them runnin a stable lets say 15psi all the way! I know its not a pefect 12.1a/f but I'll just mess with on the street! It's the boost creep thats driving me crazy!

btw: I told him after the dyno I had stock sleeves and he was like "really". He said that my car was the either the first or one of the first push over 300hp on stock sleeves in a civic and I dont have the graph but the first run I made 336hp

The chopper graph was cuz the car bounce off the rev limiter so the graph got mess up alittle

R@mon

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btw: I told him after the dyno I had stock sleeves and he was like "really". He said that my car was the either the first or one of the first push over 300hp on stock sleeves in a civic and I dont have the graph but the first run I made 336hp

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dont wanna burst your bubble but people have made 450+hp with stock sleeves, im not hating just leting you know. just get rid of that awful manifold and get a decent boost controller...