B_Swapped93

**New to FI on Honda applications** but know the basic ins and out with my Subbie(05 STI). With that being said I'm torn between Pro1's and GSC T1's this is on a stock block 98 spec B18C-R(11:1) i'll list the basic specs. I do plan on keeping the block stock

precision 5858 .63 A/R
bwr ram horn 44mm WG
tial MVR
hood exit EX/WG
skunk2 ultra street I/M
skunk2 74mm tb
stock 98 spec R head casting(stock light porting etc)
s300
Hondata COP-R




power goal mid 340's whp

car use time attack

m4xwellmurd3r

Stock cams

F22Master

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NotARaCist

iTrader: (1)

This. You don't need to worry about cams until you get into the 400 range. If you absolutely MUST spend the money on some cams, **** Junk2. GSC or Crower any day of the week.

B_Swapped93

Hmm, I understand alot of ppl like stock ITR/CTR cams for boost but surly there will be a gain from aftermarket cams. Theshodan highly suggested GSC T1's and I've seen ppl with similar builds using them, the thing that drew me towards the pro 1's is the fact of my 11:1 C/R I figured the pro1's would go well with that. But i'll settle on the GSC T1's thanks for the responces

m4xwellmurd3r

Cams like that are for like, 600+ hp builds. Itr cams will make over 500hp from what ive seen.

Youre shooting for sub 400hp. Stock cams will do that without breaking a sweat. Save yourself the money and upgrade something else

Gringo (myles) is running t1 cams and his cars making 827hp.

You dont need cams that will make 827hp

F22Master

But he MUST buy cams!!!!

lol

F22Master

You wiuld be MUCH better off selling that huge turbo and buying a gt2871

NotARaCist

iTrader: (1)

*cough* or anything that isn't Precision *cough*

Natural Aspirations

The PTE-5858 is an EXCELLENT street car turbo with potential to make more than your goal.

F22Master

That is a 600+hp turbo, he only wants to make 350....

Sure it might be a great turbo, but it is going to be laggy as hell on a lower power time attack car.

Whereas a GT2871 will give almost-instant power and will be much quicker in an on-off-on throttle application.

m4xwellmurd3r

He could even get away with a gt2860rs for 350. The turbo would be maxed out but would respond even faster than the 2871

Dark_Teg

Looks like this build could be better optimized dollar for dollar. At your power level the Skunk2 Ultra street and bigger throttle body was a waste of money just like cams would be. Should have put that cash into a built short block and you would be way ahead of the game.

You can take the stock B18CR head, intake and throttle body put it on a built shortblock and pretty much max out that 5858 if you wanted to. I am surprised the Shodan didn't steer you towards a TR3030R.

F22Master

Yeah, your parts list would be much more suited for a drag car than a time attack car.

Natural Aspirations

No wonder no one wants to come to this site anymore....

Dark_Teg

This thread has been pretty tame by Honda-Tech standards and full of good info.

NotARaCist

iTrader: (1)

What, because we're honest with people? Or because we tell people what they might not want to hear, but need to? Or because we're more likely to hop on a negative bandwagon against a company that has a negative track record?

Natural Aspirations

A bunch of Keyboard warriors who never do **** but tell others that they are not doing it right.

ls joker

this

NotARaCist

iTrader: (1)

You must be really picking and choosing what threads you're reading, then. The two threads I have personally created in this section have both been met positively, and a large number of other threads that I have participated in have been positive.

Or you're the type of person who always views the glass half empty, and refuses to see otherwise.

B_Swapped93

I'll admit I did kind of just buy parts but I did have the power goal from the start, I'm sure I can hit it with the current set up(counting those cams). But there's still lots of time till may(when our season starts), so far what I have listed I've bought in just over a month. I do want to keep the 5858. Anything higher then 400whp starts to get over kill for the tracks we run on and I'd surly get bumped into a higher class. this is my first time building a FI Honda the last few were all motor.

F22Master

Contradictory statements...

Dark_Teg

I boosted my stock B18CR. @300whp it was very fun and ran high 11's. I eventually cracked a ringland due to an injector being 8% clogged. Time attack is way harder on your car than drag racing. I didn't mean to come across like a ahole, I would just really like to see a good piston rod combo in this build so that it will last and you could see the full potential of that turbo.

boostjunkie757

sounds about right. mine went 12.5 @ 118 on s200b with a t3/t4e at 7 psi...ended up with the same problem but it was a blast to drive..

DDTECH

Damn.. I'm running faster then those times on just motor lolol..


Std shelf cam would be more then enough. A stage 1 type camshaft would do more then enough for you.