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Old 03-15-2004, 02:02 AM
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Default Help with D series turbo, new to turbos.

I have a Eg Hatch DX. I am debating between turboing a d series or swapping in a b16 SiR-II

If I trubo the D, should I buy a "new" one from Hmotorsonline they are dirt cheap and have around 35K on them.

Realistically how much does a turbo setup run for a d series inc. all misc parts.
ANy sites you guys cna recommend to me so I can research this further, I tried a search but came up with nothing but for sale or WTB info

Any help is appreciated.
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Default Re: Help with D series turbo, new to turbos. (KarbinFourteen)

i'd boost the D. greddy kit is a good start you can find them used for realy cheap!
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Default Re: Help with D series turbo, new to turbos. (kwik2nec)

I would only piece together a kit if you really did your homework about whats involved with building a turbo kit, or how turbos work.

Depending on your budget, you can pick what kit you would like, or whether you look for a used one or not. If you are looking to go over 10psi of boost, look into a kit, or expect to get engine management that can adjust engine timing. Not all kits come with timing control.
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Would a turbod D serues be as fast and reliabe as b16a Si-R ii??
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Default Re: Help with D series turbo, new to turbos. (KarbinFourteen)

Yeah, If not faster.
If you get a good turbo set-up and tune it decently you should be able to make more hp and more tq then a sir2. i've seen a lotof urbo d's runing 160-180whp and about 150lbs of tq.
compare that to a stock b16 140whp (+/- a little) and about 100lbs of tq.
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How do you tune it properly, what PSi do I use (is this the smae thing as boost). Sorry for new questions but I gotta start somewhere to learn. Any decent turbo sites?

Price wise is it more cost effective to turbo?
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Default Re: Help with D series turbo, new to turbos. (KarbinFourteen)

Also the b16 Si-R ii is a jdm motor that puts out 170 hp and 113 tq

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30005
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Default Re: Help with D series turbo, new to turbos. (KarbinFourteen)

Well, with 7psi of boost, I'm making 178 whp, which is about 210-215 at the flywheel. Its also easy to turn up the boost to 10 psi or so for racing and have about 240 hp, or close to 200-210 whp.

Kits, like the Edelbrock and Greddy come with fuel management. For 7psi + on the Greddy, you would need a intercooler, otherwise you'll run into detonation issues as the weather gets hotter, and a BOV (blow off valve) to increase turbo life.

http://www.turbod16.com Plenty of resources on turbocharging d-series engines. Read thru the FAQ forum.
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Default Re: Help with D series turbo, new to turbos. (KarbinFourteen)

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Yep but thats flywheel hp.


For a decent turbo set-up expect to spend about $2500 for everything. So yeah it's cheaper then doing a swap.
Do some searchingon here about turbo set-ups, you will learn a lot. If you have specific question by all means post them but most generalized questions will be directed to the search function.
http://www.cheapturbo.com has good prices on turbo's.
You can find used intercoolers on here for about $150
maifolds can be found on here for anywhere from $100 used to $600 new (and every price in between).
Fuel management can be found here too.
You can use a fmu,high flow fuel pump, and larger injectors.
larger injectors and hondata.
larger injectors and a v-afc
Other forms of stand-alone (motec,aem,greddy e-manage,etc)

The basics that you will need
Turbo
manifold
intercooler
fuel management
oil feed and return lines
blow off valve
wastegate
intercooler piping
exhaust/ downpipe

Now go search all that stuff to learn more about it
Hope this helps you
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Default Re: Help with D series turbo, new to turbos. (b16ahybrid)

I say go with the turbo d-series since you already got the motor and then move on to a turbo b-series once you learn if your really interested in it. I spent about $1100 on my turbo kit and all the parts were pretty much new.
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