DrivinVtec

this is guy where i live is a dsm guy. well he said there no way i hell tha my car produce 500whp.NO WAY!!! Well to make a long story short , i took a bet for $500 that my car after rebuild can produce 500whp. I only need to hit it once, then retune it for 400.

so my question is , with the build im planning on doing with a fuel cell setup, running c16 an lets say a 75-100shot(fogger wet) will that get in my 500whp?

im planning on running straight c16..not a blend. so im thinking i could raise the boost way up with that ****.

my quick build:

eagle rod
cp pistons
t3/t4oe 60 trim

maybe a resleeve. i have it planned in build but ive been readin it might not be nesssory. i dont know.

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Pullig

you gotta sleeve to run forged pistons ...

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eagle rod
cp pistons
t3/t4oe 60 trim

maybe a resleeve. i have it planned in build but ive been readin it might not be nesssory. i dont know.

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A resleeve is mandatory if you want to run forged pistons.

500whp is possible on the stock sleeves and internals, but don't count on it lasting too long. There's a thread in the Prelude forum that made over 500whp on a stock block, but it threw a rod shortly afterwards.

BTW, you're going to spend thousands of dollars just to prove to a guy that you can hit 500whp, and make only $500?

JDM_EM1

if this helps https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1699694

DrivinVtec

i was planning on rebuildig it anyways in oct.

i odnt have to resleeve it to run forged pistons. mahle makes some the work the frm sleeves.im just wondering about the sleeves also. so you guys think i could squeeze 500whp out this? i only need to do it once then like i said retune it for 400whp for the street.

nickromeo

not many people are having luck with those mahle pistons quality wise

DrivinVtec

really??? i know when they frist came out there were haven valve clearing issues, but they fixed that

DrivinVtec

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MadSuRfEr

My buddy put down 535hp and 3XXtrq on a completely stock h23 vtec

DrivinVtec

nice. do them h23 have the frm sleeves? i dont know

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You do if you were going to run the pistons you originally posted, CP.

How much did Tyler H make on his stock block H22 with Mahle pistons? He had to somewhere in the neighborhood of 500whp, right?

DrivinVtec

yeah..them CP's ill need to be resleeved.

close to 500whp on stock sleeves? wow. that woudl be awsome. that would save me about 1k an put in somewhere else.

cnlevo

i've been a DSM guy and now i build a jetta. Along with helping my buddies with their 500WHEEL hp +++ hondas. Tell him to grow up, there are more cars out there then his DSM. Alot of DSM guys are like that. They are close minded. LOL, from personal experience, ask him to bet 2 grand on who's will stay up longer with the amount of mods. lol. it sure wont' be the DSM. I had a setup that should of produced 600whp on my DSM, but had it street tuned with a SAFC and was putting down maybe 450....it was down too much to even work on.

I've learned alot from my honda buddies and they have VERY clean cars. My buddy tonight finally got his $900 ebay kit to work (there were little knotches on the head that had to be filed down to get the manifold to fit, i posted a thread about this a while ago, which was causing MAD exhaust leak and building no boost, now it is working) and his car rips like crazy for a non-forged FI motor only on 7 pounds.

Don't build your car for someone else, do it for yourself bro. I know i'm a no0b on this forum (and really only checked back to check the post i started), but i know and have seen alot. Yes you can get 500whp out of it. My buddy has a fully built/balanced/blue printed h22 in his hatch that's fully gutted and caged....he's put down almost 700whp on race gas. That doesn't have to be proven, the only thing he will be able to get on you is traction IF he has an awd DSM.....

booja

yes its possible... i made 504whp with this

8.5:1 comp wisecos
eagle rods
sleeves
10.8-11.3 afr
18 total timing or something like that
19psi
on a gt35

but you wont do that with the t3/t4

Mykizism

mahle pistons suck

DrivinVtec

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by booja &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes its possible... i made 504whp with this

8.5:1 comp wisecos
eagle rods
sleeves
10.8-11.3 afr
18 total timing or something like that
19psi
on a gt35

but you wont do that with the t3/t4</TD></TR></TABLE>is that on pump gas or race gas? what was done to the head??stock?any P&P. im trying to get an idea here of where i need to be.

my turbo isnt very big. thats the down fall here.

T3/T4 60TRIM STAGE 3 WHEEL.

Thats why i think i might need some juice to help the hp.

I was planning on doing his build regardless of what he says. i just want to 500whp once then call it day.

DrivinVtec

whys that?

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You're dissing DSMs because you didn't hit 600whp with an AFC as a tuning tool? Aww geez....

Topdawgg

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are you DRUNK?

dont give incorrect information

Pullig

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Topdawgg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you DRUNK?

dont give incorrect information</TD></TR></TABLE>

wtf. you dont give incorrect information. are you even running an H motor? youve gotta sleeve to run any forged pistons on an H series motor. Unless you run mahles but they still seem to cause scarring of the cylinder walls eventually.

DrivinVtec

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wtf. you dont give incorrect information. are you even running an H motor? youve gotta sleeve to run any forged pistons on an H series motor. Unless you run mahles but they still seem to cause scarring of the cylinder walls eventually. </TD></TR></TABLE>i have to agree. i think theres another company right?wisco or aries..one of them sa u can ru them in a h22..but im not sure on how reilible they are

prelittlelude

the stock sleeves are plenty strong, and should have no problem supporting 400-500 hp.. if you can then get a set of mahle, they have fixed their valve issues and their is a whol h22 mahle thread around here with many people runing them..

with the trubo you have chosen your going to be able to get 400+ but boost # will have to be a bit higher than if you ran a larger turbo.. if you truely NEED to make 500 , then consider a larger turbo..

DrivinVtec

what about a bigger ar? like a .83?

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Topdawgg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

are you DRUNK?

dont give incorrect information</TD></TR></TABLE>

Holy shut the f.uck up! If you don't know what you're talking about, don't reply to the thread!

DrivinVtec