Got my "drop shop" manifold today.
12-16-2002, 10:12 AM
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Got my "drop shop" manifold today.
Well, got it today from fedex.
Some problems: Well, its not finished. What you say? Well, some reason Jon forgot to weld the corners when putting the flange on for the turbo. Guess its time for me to grind off some paint and re-weld it. I can honestly say, i will never buy anything associated with Jon ever again, and strongly discourage anyone to buy anything from him. I waited 2 1/2 months for an un finished manifold.
I will put him under the "bad sellers" list on my signature for sure.
unless he wants to do something to fix this problem.
Some problems: Well, its not finished. What you say? Well, some reason Jon forgot to weld the corners when putting the flange on for the turbo. Guess its time for me to grind off some paint and re-weld it. I can honestly say, i will never buy anything associated with Jon ever again, and strongly discourage anyone to buy anything from him. I waited 2 1/2 months for an un finished manifold.
I will put him under the "bad sellers" list on my signature for sure.
unless he wants to do something to fix this problem.
12-16-2002, 12:11 PM
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Re: Got my "drop shop" manifold today. (Matthew)
Im sure a lot of people will feel it's not fair to make such statements without pictures to back them up.
Nothing personal of course.
Nothing personal of course.
12-16-2002, 02:13 PM
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Re: Got my "drop shop" manifold today. (GraphiteAccord)
Im sure a lot of people will feel it's not fair to make such statements without pictures to back them up.
Nothing personal of course.
Sounds right. Pics will be up once my friend is finished with his final today. Also, a few friends will be adding the drop shop to their bad sellers list. it'll stand till Jon figures out what he wants to go for me as far as reimbursements are concerned.
Nothing personal of course.
Sounds right. Pics will be up once my friend is finished with his final today. Also, a few friends will be adding the drop shop to their bad sellers list. it'll stand till Jon figures out what he wants to go for me as far as reimbursements are concerned.
12-16-2002, 02:20 PM
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Re: Got my "drop shop" manifold today. (GraphiteAccord)
Let me first say that i have nothing to do with Jon or the dropshop, but its extremely unfair to label someone a "bad seller" before you even give them a chance to remedy the situation. People can make mistakes, and deserve a chance to fix that mistake. 
Just my opinion.
Just my opinion.
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12-16-2002, 02:33 PM
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Re: Got my "drop shop" manifold today. (RioNinja)
How can you make up for a 2 1/2 month waiting time mistake though? Id feel the same way if I waited that long for a product and it was still not right. You can not correct the time issue. And say he said send it back and ill fix it. Would you have to wait anouther 2 1/2 months? Pretty lame...
12-16-2002, 04:36 PM
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Re: Got my "drop shop" manifold today. (ninesecrx)
i understand where he is coming from, i mean after all he DID say that they SHIPPED 2 mondays ago, and they didnt, the whole ordeal was one word then something else. my manifold wasnt bad except the egt hole wasnt there, so im not complaining. i was irritated waiting though.
12-16-2002, 06:53 PM
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Re: Got my "drop shop" manifold today. (Sonny)
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Sonny
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Sonny, the part you missed also is, He lied on the shipping date, he refuses to answer the phone, won't return e-mails. He also has his away message on, and won't respond on Aol instant messenger.
He said the manifolds were shipped 2 weeks before they actually did. Then he lagged to get everyone's tracking number (except mine) and there are Few that are STILL waiting for thier manifolds when the group buy ended in early october.
I refuse to send this manifold back, not till i have my money in my hand. I also refuse to take the bad seller notation out of my signature and my friends' signature cause he has earned it rightfully so.
My e-mail address is JesterL278@aol.com, my phone number is 520-891-5872. Jon knows that number, and my house number because they call his shop it seems constantly.
12-16-2002, 06:55 PM
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Re: Got my "drop shop" manifold today. (4gen)
Andy, their red X's, i'll find another host other then Geocities..
here:
On this last one, if you look at where the square flange connects to the tubing on the right hand sid,e you can see the spot where he missed. Its this way on the underside too.
[Modified by GraphiteAccord, 4:06 AM 12/17/2002]
here:
On this last one, if you look at where the square flange connects to the tubing on the right hand sid,e you can see the spot where he missed. Its this way on the underside too.
[Modified by GraphiteAccord, 4:06 AM 12/17/2002]
12-16-2002, 07:14 PM
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Re: Got my "drop shop" manifold today. (GraphiteAccord)
Maybe you guys should just chalk this up as "you get what you pay for". Now, I have a Revhard manifold for D series if anybody needs one ... best one out there for the D's IMO.
Now I got an Inline Pro on the way for the "new" B18B going in soon....damn it's been so long since I've driven my car it's going to seem sooo fast
Now I got an Inline Pro on the way for the "new" B18B going in soon....damn it's been so long since I've driven my car it's going to seem sooo fast
12-16-2002, 07:17 PM
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Re: Got my "drop shop" manifold today. (Hatchblack)
I guess, everyone said he was a great guy to deal with, and he was, till i gave him my money.
12-16-2002, 07:20 PM
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Re: Got my "drop shop" manifold today. (Hatchblack)
hmm, it appears that my manifold is better quality, it has cleaner welds, and just doesnt look as sloppy. i guess he started rushing to get them all done.
12-16-2002, 07:23 PM
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Re: Got my "drop shop" manifold today. (GraphiteAccord)
hey maybe you should have asked me FIRST before posting **** here
i was in SUCH a hurry to finish your manifold i must have missed that part
if you want to ship it back to me ill finish it and re paint and ship back to u 2 day air i have NO problem w that
i was in SUCH a hurry to finish your manifold i must have missed that part
if you want to ship it back to me ill finish it and re paint and ship back to u 2 day air i have NO problem w that
12-16-2002, 07:26 PM
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Re: Got my "drop shop" manifold today. (Usdm ED9)
hey maybe you should have asked me FIRST before posting **** here
i was in SUCH a hurry to finish your manifold i must have missed that part
if you want to ship it back to me ill finish it and re paint and ship back to u 2 day air i have NO problem w that
i was in SUCH a hurry to finish your manifold i must have missed that part
if you want to ship it back to me ill finish it and re paint and ship back to u 2 day air i have NO problem w that
Sound fair?
12-16-2002, 07:29 PM
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Re: Got my "drop shop" manifold today. (GraphiteAccord)
what is fair is that i will send you the appropriate amout to have it fixed when you remove the slander against my shop
YOU bought from me
NOT your friends
its one manifold out od 14 that got screwed up
i was in a hurry and i apologize take this to EMAIL
and not in a public forum as the other manifolds are fine
[Modified by Usdm ED9, 11:31 PM 12/16/2002]
YOU bought from me
NOT your friends
its one manifold out od 14 that got screwed up
i was in a hurry and i apologize take this to EMAIL
and not in a public forum as the other manifolds are fine
[Modified by Usdm ED9, 11:31 PM 12/16/2002]
12-16-2002, 07:36 PM
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Re: Got my "drop shop" manifold today. (GraphiteAccord)
if you want, take a ride up to tempe and we can finish the welds up, its not a big deal and wont take more than 15 mins. My shop is in mesa, at the end of the 202.
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Re: Got my "drop shop" manifold today. (GraphiteAccord)
and here we have it
i try to resolve it nicely and this is the **** i get
i try to resolve it nicely and this is the **** i get
Session Start (AIM - Usdmed9:Jesterl278): Mon Dec 16 23:32:25 2002
[23:32] USDM ED9: hey
[23:34] USDM ED9: hello
[23:34] USDM ED9: apparently you want to start something
[23:34] USDM ED9: so lets go
[23:34] USDM ED9: whats up ?
[23:34] USDM ED9: what can i do
[23:34] USDM ED9: to ake u happy
[23:37] Jesterl278: Hey.
[23:37] *** Auto-response sent to Jesterl278: I'm away right now.
[23:37] USDM ED9: hi
[23:37] USDM ED9: hey
[23:37] Jesterl278: Well, I'll do as i said, i'll take it to a machine shop
[23:37] USDM ED9: im really sorry about the wld thing
[23:38] USDM ED9: i ****** totally missed it
[23:38] USDM ED9:
[23:38] Jesterl278: get it priced on how much to grind down the weld, and re do it.
[23:38] Jesterl278: So i can make sure its not warped.
[23:38] USDM ED9: Geoff offered to do it
[23:38] USDM ED9: warped?
[23:38] USDM ED9: what warped
[23:38] Jesterl278: the flange, when its just spot welded.
[23:38] USDM ED9: the flange isnt spot welded
[23:38] Jesterl278: When i spot weld it.
[23:39] USDM ED9: what?
[23:39] Jesterl278: just in case, i'll just run the whole bead again.
[23:39] USDM ED9: (Link: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id...read?id=361246
[23:39] USDM ED9: all you need to do is finis the bead
[23:39] USDM ED9: some is welded from the inside too
[23:40] Jesterl278: brb
[23:41] Jesterl278: back.
[23:41] USDM ED9: hi
[23:41] USDM ED9: so yeah
[23:42] Jesterl278: I'll finish it, no worries.
[23:42] USDM ED9: got any more pice?
[23:42] USDM ED9: pics?
[23:42] Jesterl278: i'm just pissed that it took that long to get it, then its not finished.
[23:42] Jesterl278: i will take some more tomorrow.
[23:42] USDM ED9: well
[23:42] USDM ED9: i thought it was done
[23:42] USDM ED9: i would have never shipped it
[23:42] USDM ED9: if i had noticed
[23:42] Jesterl278: You had atleast 3-4 weeks to atleast notice it.
[23:42] USDM ED9: no not rreally
[23:42] Jesterl278: first thing i saw when i opened the box.
[23:43] USDM ED9: it was in boxes
[23:43] USDM ED9: for the last 3 weeks
[23:43] USDM ED9: so
[23:44] USDM ED9: help me out
[23:44] Jesterl278: I'll e-mail you tomorrow with how much you can paypal me back.
[23:44] USDM ED9: you take that sig off
[23:44] USDM ED9: and ill agree to taht
[23:44] Jesterl278: When i get my refund, i will
[23:44] USDM ED9: an isoleted incident i OFFERED to fix
[23:44] USDM ED9: so what do u want for it
[23:44] USDM ED9: ?
[23:45] USDM ED9: it will take 15 min to fix
[23:45] Jesterl278: let me find a price tomorow.
[23:45] USDM ED9: no
[23:45] Jesterl278: first.
[23:45] USDM ED9: tell me now
[23:45] USDM ED9: seeing as how u went and blabbed all over creation
[23:45] USDM ED9: and didnt just email me
[23:45] Jesterl278: I called, 4 times.
[23:45] USDM ED9: incase
[23:45] USDM ED9: you did NOT read tha last 11111 posts
[23:45] USDM ED9: Im moving the shop
[23:46] USDM ED9: i havenot been ther for a few days
[23:46] USDM ED9: a simple email would have sufficed
[23:46] USDM ED9: ill pay u right now
[23:46] USDM ED9: waht do u want for it ?
[23:46] Jesterl278: How much?
[23:47] USDM ED9: ill tell u what i think is reasonable
[23:47] Jesterl278: I called you 4 times, and imed you quiet a few times also.
[23:47] USDM ED9: dood
[23:47] Jesterl278: We'll find out tomorrow.
[23:47] USDM ED9: just tell me
[23:47] USDM ED9: now
[23:47] USDM ED9: and ill settle it
[23:47] USDM ED9: here and now
[23:47] Jesterl278: We'll find out tomorrow.
[23:47] Jesterl278: Like i said, i will have it looked at.
[23:47] USDM ED9: why?
[23:47] Jesterl278: No B/s, thats why
[23:48] USDM ED9: oh yeah ?
[23:48] USDM ED9: I OFFERED U A REFUND no?
[23:48] USDM ED9: yes i did
[23:48] Jesterl278: A full refund?
[23:48] USDM ED9: no
[23:48] USDM ED9: WTF
[23:48] Jesterl278: Well then.
[23:48] Jesterl278: I want refunded for the pirce it'll cost to get it fixed.
[23:48] USDM ED9: ill refund some $$ to fix it
[23:48] Jesterl278: Is that wrong? I won't be ripping you off.
[23:48] USDM ED9: Geoff will fix it for free
[23:48] USDM ED9: ill pay you some $$
[23:48] USDM ED9: and ittl be done
[23:49] USDM ED9: how much u want
[23:49] Jesterl278: i need to sign off.
[23:49] USDM ED9: heh
[23:49] Jesterl278: Geoff is not local to me AT ALL
[23:49] USDM ED9: yeah
[23:49] USDM ED9: so
[23:49] Jesterl278: he is 1:45 away
[23:49] USDM ED9: what do u want for it ?
[23:49] Jesterl278: I'll e-mail you tomorrow with the amount for the refund.
[23:50] USDM ED9: do me a favor
[23:50] USDM ED9: please
[23:50] Jesterl278: And that would be?
[23:50] USDM ED9: remove the post and the sig till we settle this
[23:50] Jesterl278: Do me a favor.
[23:50] USDM ED9: you are not helping an already hard situation
[23:50] Jesterl278: don't ever tell someone you shipped something when you didn't.
[23:50] Jesterl278: Don't ever do a group buy again.
[23:50] USDM ED9: are you daft?
[23:51] USDM ED9: did u not read what happened?
[23:51] Jesterl278: Don't ever think you do good buisness. Because you don't.
[23:51] USDM ED9: heh
[23:51] Jesterl278: If its not blatently obivious, this i don't know what is.
[23:51] USDM ED9: uh i hate to tell you
[23:51] Jesterl278: the thread will remain till i get my refund.
[23:51] USDM ED9: the thread will be gone
[23:51] USDM ED9: bye
Session Close (Jesterl278): Mon Dec 16 23:51:47 2002
Session Start (AIM - Usdmed9:Jesterl278): Mon Dec 16 23:52:27 2002
[23:52] Jesterl278: Hah, or so you think. It will not be gone. I will just host a full screen shot on my website, and keep it in my profile.
[23:52] *** Auto-response sent to Jesterl278: I'm away right now.
[23:52] USDM ED9: good
[23:52] USDM ED9: all for a mistake
[23:52] USDM ED9: thanks
[23:52] USDM ED9: bye
[23:32] USDM ED9: hey
[23:34] USDM ED9: hello
[23:34] USDM ED9: apparently you want to start something
[23:34] USDM ED9: so lets go
[23:34] USDM ED9: whats up ?
[23:34] USDM ED9: what can i do
[23:34] USDM ED9: to ake u happy
[23:37] Jesterl278: Hey.
[23:37] *** Auto-response sent to Jesterl278: I'm away right now.
[23:37] USDM ED9: hi
[23:37] USDM ED9: hey
[23:37] Jesterl278: Well, I'll do as i said, i'll take it to a machine shop
[23:37] USDM ED9: im really sorry about the wld thing
[23:38] USDM ED9: i ****** totally missed it
[23:38] USDM ED9:
[23:38] Jesterl278: get it priced on how much to grind down the weld, and re do it.
[23:38] Jesterl278: So i can make sure its not warped.
[23:38] USDM ED9: Geoff offered to do it
[23:38] USDM ED9: warped?
[23:38] USDM ED9: what warped
[23:38] Jesterl278: the flange, when its just spot welded.
[23:38] USDM ED9: the flange isnt spot welded
[23:38] Jesterl278: When i spot weld it.
[23:39] USDM ED9: what?
[23:39] Jesterl278: just in case, i'll just run the whole bead again.
[23:39] USDM ED9: (Link: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id...read?id=361246
[23:39] USDM ED9: all you need to do is finis the bead
[23:39] USDM ED9: some is welded from the inside too
[23:40] Jesterl278: brb
[23:41] Jesterl278: back.
[23:41] USDM ED9: hi
[23:41] USDM ED9: so yeah
[23:42] Jesterl278: I'll finish it, no worries.
[23:42] USDM ED9: got any more pice?
[23:42] USDM ED9: pics?
[23:42] Jesterl278: i'm just pissed that it took that long to get it, then its not finished.
[23:42] Jesterl278: i will take some more tomorrow.
[23:42] USDM ED9: well
[23:42] USDM ED9: i thought it was done
[23:42] USDM ED9: i would have never shipped it
[23:42] USDM ED9: if i had noticed
[23:42] Jesterl278: You had atleast 3-4 weeks to atleast notice it.
[23:42] USDM ED9: no not rreally
[23:42] Jesterl278: first thing i saw when i opened the box.
[23:43] USDM ED9: it was in boxes
[23:43] USDM ED9: for the last 3 weeks
[23:43] USDM ED9: so
[23:44] USDM ED9: help me out
[23:44] Jesterl278: I'll e-mail you tomorrow with how much you can paypal me back.
[23:44] USDM ED9: you take that sig off
[23:44] USDM ED9: and ill agree to taht
[23:44] Jesterl278: When i get my refund, i will
[23:44] USDM ED9: an isoleted incident i OFFERED to fix
[23:44] USDM ED9: so what do u want for it
[23:44] USDM ED9: ?
[23:45] USDM ED9: it will take 15 min to fix
[23:45] Jesterl278: let me find a price tomorow.
[23:45] USDM ED9: no
[23:45] Jesterl278: first.
[23:45] USDM ED9: tell me now
[23:45] USDM ED9: seeing as how u went and blabbed all over creation
[23:45] USDM ED9: and didnt just email me
[23:45] Jesterl278: I called, 4 times.
[23:45] USDM ED9: incase
[23:45] USDM ED9: you did NOT read tha last 11111 posts
[23:45] USDM ED9: Im moving the shop
[23:46] USDM ED9: i havenot been ther for a few days
[23:46] USDM ED9: a simple email would have sufficed
[23:46] USDM ED9: ill pay u right now
[23:46] USDM ED9: waht do u want for it ?
[23:46] Jesterl278: How much?
[23:47] USDM ED9: ill tell u what i think is reasonable
[23:47] Jesterl278: I called you 4 times, and imed you quiet a few times also.
[23:47] USDM ED9: dood
[23:47] Jesterl278: We'll find out tomorrow.
[23:47] USDM ED9: just tell me
[23:47] USDM ED9: now
[23:47] USDM ED9: and ill settle it
[23:47] USDM ED9: here and now
[23:47] Jesterl278: We'll find out tomorrow.
[23:47] Jesterl278: Like i said, i will have it looked at.
[23:47] USDM ED9: why?
[23:47] Jesterl278: No B/s, thats why
[23:48] USDM ED9: oh yeah ?
[23:48] USDM ED9: I OFFERED U A REFUND no?
[23:48] USDM ED9: yes i did
[23:48] Jesterl278: A full refund?
[23:48] USDM ED9: no
[23:48] USDM ED9: WTF
[23:48] Jesterl278: Well then.
[23:48] Jesterl278: I want refunded for the pirce it'll cost to get it fixed.
[23:48] USDM ED9: ill refund some $$ to fix it
[23:48] Jesterl278: Is that wrong? I won't be ripping you off.
[23:48] USDM ED9: Geoff will fix it for free
[23:48] USDM ED9: ill pay you some $$
[23:48] USDM ED9: and ittl be done
[23:49] USDM ED9: how much u want
[23:49] Jesterl278: i need to sign off.
[23:49] USDM ED9: heh
[23:49] Jesterl278: Geoff is not local to me AT ALL
[23:49] USDM ED9: yeah
[23:49] USDM ED9: so
[23:49] Jesterl278: he is 1:45 away
[23:49] USDM ED9: what do u want for it ?
[23:49] Jesterl278: I'll e-mail you tomorrow with the amount for the refund.
[23:50] USDM ED9: do me a favor
[23:50] USDM ED9: please
[23:50] Jesterl278: And that would be?
[23:50] USDM ED9: remove the post and the sig till we settle this
[23:50] Jesterl278: Do me a favor.
[23:50] USDM ED9: you are not helping an already hard situation
[23:50] Jesterl278: don't ever tell someone you shipped something when you didn't.
[23:50] Jesterl278: Don't ever do a group buy again.
[23:50] USDM ED9: are you daft?
[23:51] USDM ED9: did u not read what happened?
[23:51] Jesterl278: Don't ever think you do good buisness. Because you don't.
[23:51] USDM ED9: heh
[23:51] Jesterl278: If its not blatently obivious, this i don't know what is.
[23:51] USDM ED9: uh i hate to tell you
[23:51] Jesterl278: the thread will remain till i get my refund.
[23:51] USDM ED9: the thread will be gone
[23:51] USDM ED9: bye
Session Close (Jesterl278): Mon Dec 16 23:51:47 2002
Session Start (AIM - Usdmed9:Jesterl278): Mon Dec 16 23:52:27 2002
[23:52] Jesterl278: Hah, or so you think. It will not be gone. I will just host a full screen shot on my website, and keep it in my profile.
[23:52] *** Auto-response sent to Jesterl278: I'm away right now.
[23:52] USDM ED9: good
[23:52] USDM ED9: all for a mistake
[23:52] USDM ED9: thanks
[23:52] USDM ED9: bye
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Re: Got my "drop shop" manifold today. (Usdm ED9)
and here we have it
i try to resolve it nicely and this is the **** i get
i try to resolve it nicely and this is the **** i get
The guy finally got the special order part he paid for, and intead of having it fixed for free, from not one, but two vendors willing to help... he decides to go off on his own, and modify the product, which will guarantee that it can't be taken back ....
Evidently unless cash is paid to him, he'll continue to propigate the problem... and evidently has a group of people willing to libel a shop name / reputation on a dozen other manifolds he hasn't seen. Man ... what a warning to other business owners.