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Old 01-04-2012, 06:45 AM
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Default Good turbo for GSR for up to 550hp

I am trying to piece together a turbo setup for my GSR eh6. I am looking to have 450-550 hp. I was wondering what peoples opinions of a turbo I found:

GARRETT T04E TURBO
COMPRESSOR HOUSING: A/R60
COMPRESSOR WHEEL:57MM INDUCER 82MM EXDUCER
CHRA: OIL COOLED BALL BEARING
EXHAUST HOUSING: T3 A/R 84 DIVIDED
EXHAUST WHEEL: "O"
Twin Scroll

As this is my first FI setup. I was wondering what capabilities this turbo has?

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You need to post this in the FI forums. TheShodan will be able to help you out.

My opinion is you need to know what kind of flow you need to get to 500-ish hp and find that turbo. That's something YOU should have already learned. How did you even pick this turbo without knowing that?

You plan on running this on pump gas?
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I realized that after I posted here. I am afraid I have no idea about flow yet. I buy stuff that I can turn around and make a few bucks off and I found this turbo at a reasonable price. I just did my first swap and I am trying to learn more about FI over the next year while I slowly piece it together. I need to find a FI for dummies book!!!
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No such thing. There are no cliff notes for turbocharging if you want to do it right.
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I meant that more in a joking manor due to my noobness with FI

I need to just find some locals to have a more hands on learning experience. I am reading the FI FAQ and I think I am even more confused then before.
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Read the turbo link in my sig. Then go BACK to the FI forum and find a build thread that is putting down the power output you're looking for. Find a few of them and compare. Model your build off of that. Re-read the FAQs and I bet it will start to make sense.

But first ask yourself where you're getting these numbers from as a horsepower goal.
You building a drag/track car?
You don't seriously think you can drive that on the street do you?
Prepare for traction issues.
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gt35r would be your best ball bearing choice for that hp goal without maxing the turbo out all the way..
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I plan on this being for the strip with the occasional car meet/show. I have 3 other cars to dd.

I'm really trying to build a Honda capable of beating my dads 600 hp 69 camaro and just **** him off with a $15,000 civic against his 140k camaro. That is how I came up with number. Family rivalry


I designed the interior and hand my hand in every thing else




427 all aluminum small block. Your looking at double my budget for my whole civic.


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Thanks and sorry about that. I have always thought a gt3582r would be a wise choice for the power I want. After reading a couple post I remembered that thing called racing fuel. I didn't realize I could get about 400ish on pump and switch to racing fuel and get what I am looking for. That would be perfect for when I did go to a meet. I have already decide on Neptune for tuner.

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Default Re: Good turbo for GSR for up to 550hp

Hey man, glad to see you're doing some research. You'll be glad you did once you become your Dad's Daddy lol! One build you should def check out is Calidad's here: https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/my-b18c1-engine-build-assembly-2951496/
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Im running the 35r with .82 T3, boost threshold on a 1.6 is 3,800, if you have the extera money go with the gtx3582r... more power and you wont sacrifice any bottom end
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http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...t/boostadviser
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Precision 5857 should do the trick. Quite a few more to choose from.
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Default Re: Good turbo for GSR for up to 550hp

go with a gt35r, with a good tune you should be able to drive it at about 500whp on pump if you build the bottom end. Or like someone else said, gtx35r for a little quicker spool and more top end if you want to run race gas. Probably capable of close to 700whp on race gas.
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Default Re: Good turbo for GSR for up to 550hp

thanks for all the input guys I will check out all that's been mentioned.

Hey Tim, nice to see a local!!

OK I figured a little more input on my plans. I plan on re-sleeving the block probably to 2.0, def building the bottom end( I want this thing to be as bullet proof as possible), 3" exhaust, 3" IC piping, Meth kit after motor has a few miles on it with low boost and re tune for high boost. Fully built head, over sized valves and port match intake n exhaust.

I am thinking I would prefer a twin scroll turbo for quicker response. I have not looked yet but I am guessing that might what the gtx series are. I will look tonight. I just got swamped with work

I don't plan on cutting any corners with this and any recommendations are greatly appreciated

Thanks again
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Unless your building the head for fun, there is really no need for oversized valves or even aftermarket valves for that matter.
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Default Re: Good turbo for GSR for up to 550hp

Originally Posted by ej6sir-t
Unless your building the head for fun, there is really no need for oversized valves or even aftermarket valves for that matter.
This! ^

The stock GSR head flows plenty for your power goal.

Have you had a chance to read through Calidad's build thread yet?
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Default Re: Good turbo for GSR for up to 550hp

Originally Posted by speedjunkie_g35
thanks for all the input guys I will check out all that's been mentioned.

Hey Tim, nice to see a local!!

OK I figured a little more input on my plans. I plan on re-sleeving the block probably to 2.0, def building the bottom end( I want this thing to be as bullet proof as possible), 3" exhaust, 3" IC piping, Meth kit after motor has a few miles on it with low boost and re tune for high boost. Fully built head, over sized valves and port match intake n exhaust.

I am thinking I would prefer a twin scroll turbo for quicker response. I have not looked yet but I am guessing that might what the gtx series are. I will look tonight. I just got swamped with work

I don't plan on cutting any corners with this and any recommendations are greatly appreciated

Thanks again
A T4 "divided housing" (Not a twin scroll as you're led to believe) will NOT respond any more quickly for your 550whp goal... (Yes, even on a built 2.0 Litre).. Stay with a T3 in a .63A/R with a larger exhaust wheel to make what you need happen. At 550whp, you're going to reach maximum boost pressure under 20psi by about 4800-5500rpms, unless you're using nitrous.. So don't worry about the "spool" argument. you'll be light enough to take out your Supra/Mustang/Evo people in the smaller housing without all the mess.
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Originally Posted by TheShodan
A T4 "divided housing" (Not a twin scroll as you're led to believe) will NOT respond any more quickly for your 550whp goal... (Yes, even on a built 2.0 Litre).. Stay with a T3 in a .63A/R with a larger exhaust wheel to make what you need happen. At 550whp, you're going to reach maximum boost pressure under 20psi by about 4800-5500rpms, unless you're using nitrous.. So don't worry about the "spool" argument. you'll be light enough to take out your Supra/Mustang/Evo people in the smaller housing without all the mess.
Told you.
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Default Re: Good turbo for GSR for up to 550hp

i made 490 with a pte 6152s .58 a/r exhaust housing @21 psi. inline pro cast "tubular" mani. 82mm sleeved gsr, stock gsr cams.
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