turbotime

Hey, Im trying to buy the "ingallis stuffy", its a engine torque damper, im sure you guys are familiar. I know of a few online stores that sell it, but we all know how online stores are.

I was wondering if anyone here could refer me to a reputable online store that sells this torque damper?

Also is it true that the ingallis is better than the NRG cause it uses an actual piston-type cylinder instead of just a rubber damper? I read some post by the beta-tester for their damper that i *think*
stated that.

Also I know it stated they put a lot more r&d into their mount cause the generic design kept breaking.

Thanks!

underpressure02

I heard that NRG use to make the Ingallis engine torque damper. And I thought the NRG used a piston-type cylinder. I was just playing with one at my friends shop this weekend. I could be wrong though.

turbotime

yeah i heard the NRG uses a hard rubber piece inside of the damper and ingaliis uses something else... which is betetr than rubber apprently..

anyone know for sure?

EE_Chris

Had a friend buy one of these because he thought he needed it. Turns out he needed fresh motor mounts. He went ahead and bought some JimFabs, took off the damper and sold it, and things have been peachy since.

Not trying to say that's your case, but make sure your engine mounts aren't worn before spending money on a needless part.

Importordomestic

since no one can ever answer a direct question:

http://www.lightningmotorsport...y.htm

there ya go

turbotime

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How do you check? Cracked rubber? Mine look brand new...

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http://www.lightningmotorsport...y.htm

there ya go </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks, yeah thats the one but i think that is the old design. They have a new one that has a "i" cut into the mounting bracket.... i think it has some improvements in design as well..

Yeah i saw my engine on the dyno it torque like a bitch, I was going to get the stiffy and some torque mount inserts...

turbotime

ok where to i get this one:

underpressure02

Make one of these for both sides and the back and some jim fab lowers and your motor will never move. Trust me I know

turbotime

^ if i could only weld!

here is the new stiffy:



see the mount...

oh and:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW

Features:

* High durometer elastomer for consistent control
* One peice, 6061-T6 aluminum body
* Solid one peice rod
* Hardened steel reinforced teflon heim joints
* Adjustable preload for variable vibration/damping
* All mounting brackets and bolts needed for installation are included - see under-hood photos

EE_Chris

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So did his and they had 120k+ miles on them. If you get this damper and your mounts are really worn, this damper is going to get worn out in a shorter amount of time than it originally would have since it's taking up the slack from the worn mounts.

Start with a solid foundation...

turbotime

wish there was a more effective way to diagnose worn mounts....

turbotime

here are the alternative inserts i was thinking of getting- they are only $35 made by energy suspension, pulyurethane.

turbotime

and these from prothane:

Boostfed

These ENgine Dampeners, do they have a turbine wheel or compressor wheel or maybe a charger belt? lol

turbotime

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nah man, so now you prolly dont want one, but they do add a whistling sound so it sounds like you have a turbo, youll love that

Boostage

why are these so expensive? they look very simple

Boostfed

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nah man, so now you prolly dont want one, but they do add a whistling sound so it sounds like you have a turbo, youll love that </TD></TR></TABLE>

Awesome!!! So they are like a BOV and that is how they are Forced Induction related?

I sell teh NRG ones BTW

igo4bmx

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anyone know for sure?</TD></TR></TABLE>


NRG uses rubber, but they also give you a polyurethane one


NRG is like 42 bucks on http://www.nopi.com

yellowturbo

contact Tai @ http://www.corsportusa.com

I got mine from him and hes a great guy. I like this product too for my street car !

93supercoupe

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I sell teh NRG ones BTW </TD></TR></TABLE>

Becuase I dont think any All Motor single cams need anything of this sort. lolol

Boostfed

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Becuase I dont think any All Motor single cams need anything of this sort. lolol</TD></TR></TABLE>

BISI Ezerioha made 300whp+ on his, he also built an F22a for a friend of mine which made 250whp+ if memory serves me correct. I was just playing because it wasn't FI related really but oh well

93supercoupe

I also joking.I thought it was funny.

igo4bmx

i'd like to add the nrg and ingalls one are almost identical and i would bet money they are made from the same manufacturer

rudebwoy

iTrader: (1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbotime &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok where to i get this one:


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that looks like the shock from a mountain bike