mr_munro

Hello

Been doing some research lately as turboing my ITR is becoming more and more appealing. I was looking at purchasing the GReddy TD05-16G turbo kit because:

Internally gated Turbo
Discreet appearance in the engine bay
Keeps AC/PS
Im looking at only 240-260hp at the wheels. Being my daily im after more USEABLE power (midrange) and perhaps a little increase in top end.
Want to keep around 7-8psi mark, due to the high CR motor and i want it to be a reliable build because i will have the car for a while to come (5-10 years, car currently has 76000 KM on it..so 47000 Miles)
Do not want to spend more than $5000AUD, i will be doing the install.

However, most sites do not list this kit and more and some say it is discontinued, so i need to find something else just incase. Any other kits that fit my criteria, and is the TD05-16G kit from GReddy appropriate for my goals? If someone can point me in the right direction to piecing a similar kit together would be great and brands to look for/stay away from.

Also, with a similar kit, would it be wise to pruchase higher cooling capacity radiators or is the stock full size fine? Would be using boost my gear aswell, as i already have Hondata S300. I would go 440CC injectors, look at a 255l/hr fuel pump and undecided which IC to go for as the kit does not come with one.



^^ is the look im going for. Main idea is the manifold/turbo not being too noticeable. I will even be painting the IC black so on-comers cannot notice. I wouldnt make the filter came out the top of the bay either. Oh and i want to keep stock PCV system

Thanks in advance!

mr_munro

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DirtyDA9

Why does it have to be a "kit"? Piece your own together. Simple as that.

mr_munro

Well it doesnt really have to be, aslong as it fits the same as a kit with the same ease. Being a turbo noob aswell, im not sure what manfiold would work the best to keep the AC/PS. Also fabricating IC piping would be difficult for me.

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

Those days are over. (GReddy stopped producing it after its restructuring in 2007)You're not going to get a "kit" with the same fit and finish as the GReddy, and the Edlebrocks anymore.. The Honda turbo market has become much more mass customization to where these 2 companys felt there was no longer a market to make these. Nott to mention some of the headaches the GReddy gave when it came to getting more power later, hurt its sales. Hell, I think I still have my Type 24 intercooler, and intake pipe somewhere from forever ago when I had a GReddy as my first aftermarket kit. (you would get about 260whp at the most with it from out of the box)

Best to go to Go-Autowerks.com for their basic kits that they use, and start fabricating an intake pipe and exhaust manifold shield.

http://www.go-autoworks-store.com/gotutusy1.html

or
http://www.go-autoworks-store.com/gorakit.html

mr_munro

Thanks Shodan, i will check out those kits.

mr_munro

Well after some research i have managed to piece a kit together for my goals

Garrett T3/T4E,60 Trim .63 A/R - fast spool up and should full boost around 4500rpm?
8psi Actuator that i can get at a local shop
InlinePRO B Series T3 Manifold
Walbro 255LPH
RC 440cc injectors
2.5" Custom downpipe
Hondata S300
Intercooler 2.5" - im looking for one that comes with bolt holes to bolt straight up to my car. I have seen some that come with holes to bolt to the bonnet latch. Can anyone point me in theright direction where to find one?
Piping kit - prob 2.5" aswell. In the hunt for one that fits around A/C and P/S. Again if anyone knows of a good kit, that would be helpful.
Golden Eagle Vacuum Manifold
2" Boost and Oil pressure gauge to fit in this style gauge pod:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/94-01-ACURA-...sories&vxp=mtr
Greddy Type S BOV
Keeping the stock map sensor as i dont plan to say in the 7-8 psi range
oil feed lines i would get made up

What you think? Or have i overkilled on some products for my goals?

dcmatt

iTrader: (7)

If your only wanting 260 and midrange is important I'm sure a small T3 would be better of for you. Something like a gt28 or a super 60. Theshodan would prolly be able to make a really good suggestion for you. With that 60 trim and your motor I'm sure 11psi would be over 300 and laggier then a t3.

mr_munro

Thanks for your input. The T3 Super 60 by Garrett was also another choice i forgot to add in. I dont plan on going to 11psi at all, strickly staying at 7-8psi.

DirtyDA9

I would look into larger injectors than that.

mr_munro

You recommend 550c maybe? I read that 440cc would be sufficent for 280-330whp builds.

DirtyDA9

But once you finally have it boosted you will eventually want more power, and later on, even more power. You will want room to play, not having to buy injectors everytime you want more power.

mr_munro

I see where you are coming from but, ive seen traction issues and the insane amount of torque steer on high power builds get and i think ill be happy at the level of power ill be making with 7-8psi.

If i want more power, id buy a new car once/if i get over the ITR...hell im still finding N/A fun (up top )

DirtyDA9

I didn't realize you had an ITR, thank god you aren't going with the ebay turbo anymore. You never want to cheap out on parts as vital as that, ESPECIALLY on an ITR.

mr_munro

Yep, its my pride and joy, a real beauty (https://honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-type-r-8/gday-australia-my-limited-edition-itr-3018749/)
Where did i say i was buying an eBay turbo..another thread? I am the first to know, you cheapen out on parts you pay the extra cost, another reason why i chose and inlinepro manifold aswell. That being said BECAUSE it is an ITR i'm only leaving it 7-8psi. I need this to be a reliable daily.

So you think this is a good build for my needs?

dcmatt

iTrader: (7)

I wouldn't get stuck on a certain amount of boost. Just pick what power you want and go for it. A super 60 and a t3/t04e 60 trim at the same psi will give you a differant amount of power. As long as you use a good tuner and your motor is healthy 260 will be a breeze.

DirtyDA9

My mistake, for some reason I though I was in the "emusa" turbo kit thread lol

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

For an ITR, a super 60 would run out of breath in no time. Completely different than a 75mm exducer wheel'd T3/T04E 60 trim. even midrange on the type R with that turbocharger

racebum

this is an inline pro manifold on a stock ITR engine with 6psi at redline, makes about 7-8 midrange, turbo is a 5431e cea

very, very conservative tune

don't use a super 60, get one of these or a garrett 50 or 57 trim, not only would the super 60 choke, it would require more pressure to get this number, that's bad from a pump gas tuning perspective. top dyno chart is 260whp@7900 and 177lb around 7300 if you can't make it out



and this is a stock NA ITR, blue line, red was after a few mods



talk about similar dyno shapes

Whiterice-gsr

the 440cc will be fine but like dirty said there wont be room to grow past about 320hp, gt28 is the turbo i would totally use if i were u. wicked fast spool and you'll have a big fat power band of totally useable horsepower at 260 - 280 and if u want a bit more u can push it to 300 - 320 with that setup.

Whiterice-gsr

i have a 57 trim and i think with his goals in mind he would be better smaller.

racebum

probably, but, a 57 comes on a little later which depending on how you drive could be a personal preference. that 50 trim as you can see on the dynos above, damn near behaves like a stock engine

mr_munro

Is that a disco potato? So something like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garrett-Turb...sories&vxp=mtr

I also read that a GT28R would yield me SLIGHLTY better midrange and top end. I read GT28 would only get me 230hp pushed because of its rather small flow rate

mr_munro

Eh im lost. So your saying the Turbo i stated would be better than a Super 60?

mr_munro

That is very interesting. You think a Super 60 would be more suited to a B20. A friend of mine had a T3 Super 60 on his B20, and thta seems to suit the engine very well. Started spooling at 2k and make full boost at 4.5k and my god did it pull hard.

5431E CEA looks big..or is it just me?: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Precision-Tu...sories&vxp=mtr