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Old 08-08-2006, 05:07 PM
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Default Garrett turbos: t3t4 -vs- t3/61 -vs- t3/67

Garrett T3T4
- 57trim .60ar compressor
- .63ar exhaust
- stage 3 wheel
MAXIMUM POWER?

Garrett t3/61
- same compressor section as a GT35R
MAXIMUM POWER?

Garrett T3/67
- .70ar compressor
- .63ar exhaust
- stage 5 wheel
MAXIMUM POWER?


I need as many opinions as possible, please leave negative comments out! ACTUAL experience with any turbo versus the other would be appreciated. What maximum power is each turbo capable of producing? Its going to be on a fully built GSR motor. is the extra lag between turbos worth the power?
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Default Re: Garrett turbos: t3t4 -vs- t3/61 -vs- t3/67 (JDM turbo DC)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM turbo DC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Garrett T3T4
- 57trim .60ar compressor
- .63ar exhaust
- stage 3 wheel
MAXIMUM POWER?

Garrett t3/61
- same compressor section as a GT35R
MAXIMUM POWER?

Garrett T3/67
- .70ar compressor
- .63ar exhaust
- stage 5 wheel
MAXIMUM POWER?


I need as many opinions as possible, please leave negative comments out! ACTUAL experience with any turbo versus the other would be appreciated. What maximum power is each turbo capable of producing? Its going to be on a fully built GSR motor. is the extra lag between turbos worth the power?</TD></TR></TABLE>

t3t4 it depends if its a t04b or t04e the e with a 57 trim .63a/r is prolly good for about 400 but thats really pushing the turbo

the t3/61 is a good all around turbo and should make 550ish power and it depends which gt35r yoru refering too

the t3/t67 should make about 600-650 hp but not with a .63 a/r and then there is the t3/t67HO which will make 700+ on a 1.06 a/r
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according to phoenix turbo:
http://cheapturbo.stores.yahoo.net/gatu.html

t3/t04e 57-trim .63 a/r is good to about 475-500whp

t3/60-1 .63 a/r is good to 575whp

the t3/t67(blowzilla?)......no idea....the HP is not listed on their website. but it flows 101cfm more than the 60-1 so i would guess it can support over 600whp.


is the extra lag between the 3 worth it? depends on what you want out of the car....if it's only a drag car then the t67 would be your best bet......for a daily driver the 57-trim is an excellent choice...having more than 300-350whp daily driven is a hand full. anything more than that is pretty stupid as traction is a real issue.

im running a 57-trim and i think its perfect for the street.....


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im running the t3/60-1. its a little bit laggier than my 57 trim t3/t4 used to be (both with the .63 exhaust ar). i make 14 psi right around 5000-5200 and it pulls hard to 8200. i think the most you are gonna get out of that one is around 550whp and that is setup dependant
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you are asking about these turbos, but say nothing about what your goals are.

What are your goals? There may be other options out there that you have not thought of.
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Has anyone ran a 60 trim Garrett t3t4 stage 3 wheel (w/ .60ar compressor and .63ar exhaust)

I'm debating on a 57 trim vs a 60 trim on my H22 turbo setup. I'm looking to achieve 300 -375whp goal without too much lag associate with it.

Let me know what would be the best choice to go with on an H22
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T67 hits around 700 whp, spools a lot later than T04E. With a straight T4 unit, P-trim cutout, spooled around 4-4500 rpm on 2.0/VTEC. Due to heavy car (Pigtegra) and gearing (LS gearbox) it really only started pulling acceptably at 6500+ rpms and required shifting at 9500 to keep from falling out of the powerband. A lighter car, or a car with better gearing, would have "been faster" and not needed as precise shifting to make the car perform... but that's still a really peaky powerband, and better suited to a drag car you drive on the street sometimes.
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I had a 60 trim t3-04E on my ITR with an .82 housing and it was sick on the top end. I then switched to a T3/67 and the spool was the same and was even nuttier on the top end.
Both are awesome turbos.

I run the T4 Blowzilla on my Supra now and its a monster of a street turbo for my set up. I would assume it would work great on a Honda also.

The 67 will support about 700
The Blowzilla will support about 630 or so, but at higher boost levels for sure
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by non-VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">according to phoenix turbo:
http://cheapturbo.stores.yahoo.net/gatu.html

t3/t04e 57-trim .63 a/r is good to about 475-500whp

t3/60-1 .63 a/r is good to 575whp

the t3/t67(blowzilla?)......no idea....the HP is not listed on their website. but it flows 101cfm more than the 60-1 so i would guess it can support over 600whp.


is the extra lag between the 3 worth it? depends on what you want out of the car....if it's only a drag car then the t67 would be your best bet......for a daily driver the 57-trim is an excellent choice...having more than 300-350whp daily driven is a hand full. anything more than that is pretty stupid as traction is a real issue.

im running a 57-trim and i think its perfect for the street.....


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i just picked up a daily driver so im lookin for big power, i have a t3/t4 now im trying to sell and really debating between the t3/61 or t3/67.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TTT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you are asking about these turbos, but say nothing about what your goals are.

What are your goals? There may be other options out there that you have not thought of. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i am looking for around 500-550whp without maxing out the turbo so im thinkin of either maxing out the t3/61 or get more lag with the t3/67. i wasted some money purchasing the t3/t4 and dont want to make that mistake again. i know i have other choices like precision, turbonetics, full-race, etc but at the quality, specs, and price, i prefer garrett.

after choosing between the t3/61 and t3/67, i will debate whether ball bearing will be worth it or not. does anyone have experience with both ball bearing and thrust bearing? at what revs does the turbos spool and peak?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo-LS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

t3t4 it depends if its a t04b or t04e the e with a 57 trim .63a/r is prolly good for about 400 but thats really pushing the turbo

the t3/61 is a good all around turbo and should make 550ish power and it depends which gt35r yoru refering too

the t3/t67 should make about 600-650 hp but not with a .63 a/r and then there is the t3/t67HO which will make 700+ on a 1.06 a/r</TD></TR></TABLE>

im using the t3/t67 .63ar and i made 619whp
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im using the t3/t67 .63ar and i made 619whp</TD></TR></TABLE>

what kind of set-up with what build? and when did the turbo start spoolin and full spool? ball bearing or thrust?
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from what ive read the full-race version of the t3/67HO spools early for such a big turbo and makes awesome power 650+
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for a t3/67, should i definately go for a stage 5 wheel versus the stage 3 and get .63ar exhaust or .82ar?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coptzer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from what ive read the full-race version of the t3/67HO spools early for such a big turbo and makes awesome power 650+</TD></TR></TABLE>

the t3/t67 h.o. is SIMPLY badass! i ran it on a bone stock GSR and made 395whp @ 12psi man. i would def recommend the Full-Race t3/t67 H.O. (.82 a/r hotside) over any of the other turbos you listed.

http://www.full-race.com/catal...d=468

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cuin9sec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the t3/t67 h.o. is SIMPLY badass! i ran it on a bone stock GSR and made 395whp @ 12psi man. i would def recommend the Full-Race t3/t67 H.O. (.82 a/r hotside) over any of the other turbos you listed.

http://www.full-race.com/catal...d=468

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well it does sound good but for the price, i rather get the garrett

stage 5 wheel or stage 3??

.63ar exhaust or .82??
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cuin9sec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the t3/t67 h.o. is SIMPLY badass! i ran it on a bone stock GSR and made 395whp @ 12psi man. i would def recommend the Full-Race t3/t67 H.O. (.82 a/r hotside) over any of the other turbos you listed.

http://www.full-race.com/catal...d=468

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agreed
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i need more opinions!

my friend told me to get a ball-bearing t3/67 with a stage 5 wheel and .82ar exhaust
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I currently have the t3 .63ar blowzilla and it i love it! Full spool right around 5k, rips like a bitch to 9k. Awesome turbo for the price!! I just made 468whp with it on pump gas at 18.5psi...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM turbo DC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well it does sound good but for the price, i rather get the garrett

stage 5 wheel or stage 3??

.63ar exhaust or .82??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Full-Rice has about the best price on T67 you're going to find, and it *is* Garrett pieces.

Stage 5 wheel if you plan to use past 500 whp; otherwise the stage 3 wheel restricts.

.63 or .82 depends on your displacement; either you have a small, ******, completely worthless B16 - or you don't. If you need spool, given the price of everything required to hit 500+, a used Zex kit to feed a 50 shot is practically free.
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.63 or .82 depends on your displacement; either you have a small, ******, completely worthless B16........ </TD></TR></TABLE>

FU ******!!

There is also a new turbo that I haven't see on a Honda yet.

Ball Bearing T3/60-1, .77 ar w/stage 5 exhaust wheel.

I have a brand new on of these sitting at home and I can't decide if I want to sell it or try it on my car.
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Ball Bearing T3/60-1, .77 ar w/stage 5 exhaust wheel.
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i have a thrust bearing t3/60-1. im very happy with it, and with a ball bearing center section the additional spool time will really make it a good street choice.
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b16 &gt; joey davis, PERIOD
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Wow, owned twice by locals while in bed with a hangover.

It's true, I suck... but B16s suck more.
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tell trav-*** that the b16 head is still waiting for him. he expressed interest in the whole setup - cams for $700....and, i need to know if it's a go or not


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