Garrett T4/61 .70 A/R too big for my b16?
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Garrett T4/61 .70 A/R too big for my b16?
Most likely people would refer me to smaller turbo, probably like a t3/t4, but it's not possible. My manifold only supports a T4 
My setup is as follows:
B16
Head:
Springs, Retainers, Valves
ITR Cams
JG/Edebrock IM
1000cc Injectors
Block:
9.1:1 - 9.3:1 CR
Eagle Rods
ARP Head/Main Studs
Stock Sleeves
I plan to make at least 350-400+ HP. I was pretty dead set on this turbo until i found out they don't make any .6x A/R on them, if anybody else has any other suggestions on a turbo, let me know!
Thanks in Advance
My setup is as follows:B16
Head:
Springs, Retainers, Valves
ITR Cams
JG/Edebrock IM
1000cc Injectors
Block:
9.1:1 - 9.3:1 CR
Eagle Rods
ARP Head/Main Studs
Stock Sleeves
I plan to make at least 350-400+ HP. I was pretty dead set on this turbo until i found out they don't make any .6x A/R on them, if anybody else has any other suggestions on a turbo, let me know!
Thanks in Advance
10-15-2004, 04:38 PM
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Re: Garrett T4/61 .70 A/R too big for my b16? (Bubba55)
That turbo is too big for those power goals. It's going to spool slow as hell. Why not get a flange welded on that will support a T3/T4?
10-15-2004, 04:58 PM
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Re: Garrett T4/61 .70 A/R too big for my b16? (RyanCivic2000)
i plan to use the manifold for the another setup in the future.....any other <U>T4 TURBO </U>suggestions?
10-15-2004, 05:44 PM
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Re: Garrett T4/61 .70 A/R too big for my b16? (Bubba55)
You can get any T04E or T04B compressor. The T4/T61 may be big for what you are trying to accomplish. The A/R for the turbines for a T4 go down from .58 A/R, .68 A/R, .81 A/R etc etc all tangential housings. You can get an SC61 T4 turnine side and this is still a small shaft turbo so the spool will be better than a big shaft T4 turbo. That is good to 680hp though. If you rev high you could use it BUT it may be too big for you. You can get a T4 57 trim or even 50 trim compressor wheel with a .58 A/R turbine and O trim wheel and it would spool nicely. You have plenty of options, people usually forget that a T3/T04E and T3/T04B is just a hybrid turbo using a T3 turbine side for great spool and response from a smaller motor BUT matched/combined with a T04B or T04B compressor side. Also may want to get an E Compressor housing as opposed to an S cover. I can get Full Race, Garrett, Precision and Innovative Turbo Systems. Any help you need just hit me up. 
AIM Boostfed11 , email terry@boostfed.net or sales@boostfed.net or PM here! Good luck!
AIM Boostfed11 , email terry@boostfed.net or sales@boostfed.net or PM here! Good luck!
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Re: Garrett T4/61 .70 A/R too big for my b16? (Bubba55)
Others
http://store.yahoo.com/cheaptu....html
Basically any compressor wheel you want
Your options are endless!
http://store.yahoo.com/cheaptu....html
Basically any compressor wheel you want
Your options are endless!
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Re: Garrett T4/61 .70 A/R too big for my b16? (Boostfed)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostfed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can get any T04E or T04B compressor. The T4/T61 may be big for what you are trying to accomplish. The A/R for the turbines for a T4 go down from .58 A/R, .68 A/R, .81 A/R etc etc all tangential housings. You can get an SC61 T4 turnine side and this is still a small shaft turbo so the spool will be better than a big shaft T4 turbo. That is good to 680hp though. If you rev high you could use it BUT it may be too big for you. You can get a T4 57 trim or even 50 trim compressor wheel with a .58 A/R turbine and O trim wheel and it would spool nicely. You have plenty of options, people usually forget that a T3/T04E and T3/T04B is just a hybrid turbo using a T3 turbine side for great spool and response from a smaller motor BUT matched/combined with a T04B or T04B compressor side. Also may want to get an E Compressor housing as opposed to an S cover. I can get Full Race, Garrett, Precision and Innovative Turbo Systems. Any help you need just hit me up. AIM Boostfed11 , email terry@boostfed.net or sales@boostfed.net or PM here! Good luck! </TD></TR></TABLE>
i second that...
the t04b is a bad idea in my opinion tho...
the e57 wheel would be a nice rig with a .58a/r o-trim turbine rig.
AIM Boostfed11 , email terry@boostfed.net or sales@boostfed.net or PM here! Good luck! </TD></TR></TABLE>i second that...
the t04b is a bad idea in my opinion tho...
the e57 wheel would be a nice rig with a .58a/r o-trim turbine rig.
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Re: Garrett T4/61 .70 A/R too big for my b16? (GT61 this 1.8t)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GT61 this 1.8t »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i second that...
the t04b is a bad idea in my opinion tho...
the e57 wheel would be a nice rig with a .58a/r o-trim turbine rig. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes that is what I was leaning towards a straight T04E 57 trim compressor wheel in a .60 A/R compressor housing, turbine O wheel .58 A/R turbine
Edit:Depending on how high he revved it the T04B can make power, I had a T3/T04B S trim wheel(smallest) with Stage 1 trubine .63 A/R T3, that made 370whp and 276 ft-lb torque 21psi. It was MAXED out but a straight T4 would make a little more with more lag! Now if my kit came with the turbo it was supposed o Drag3 T3/T04B Super V trim compressor and stage 3 turbine wheel, I feel it wouldve easily surpassed 400whp on that set up!
i second that...
the t04b is a bad idea in my opinion tho...
the e57 wheel would be a nice rig with a .58a/r o-trim turbine rig.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes that is what I was leaning towards a straight T04E 57 trim compressor wheel in a .60 A/R compressor housing, turbine O wheel .58 A/R turbine
Edit:Depending on how high he revved it the T04B can make power, I had a T3/T04B S trim wheel(smallest) with Stage 1 trubine .63 A/R T3, that made 370whp and 276 ft-lb torque 21psi. It was MAXED out but a straight T4 would make a little more with more lag! Now if my kit came with the turbo it was supposed o Drag3 T3/T04B Super V trim compressor and stage 3 turbine wheel, I feel it wouldve easily surpassed 400whp on that set up!
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Re: Garrett T4/61 .70 A/R too big for my b16? (Bubba55)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bubba55 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what's a good turbo for my setup for MAD top end? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Mad top end would be that T4/T61! But can your motor spool it and can you run it high enough in rpm? Stock bore B16A and 9.3:1 CR I dunno.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Mad top end would be that T4/T61! But can your motor spool it and can you run it high enough in rpm? Stock bore B16A and 9.3:1 CR I dunno.
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