ShowSi2

This is the kit i am likely to buy...anyone have one or know of anyone who has one please tell me how u like it. here is the list of items included in kit...

Full Race Equal Length Manifold
Full Race "Back Door" Intercooler
Full Race Downpipe
Garrett T3/60-1 Turbo or Garrett T4/T04E 60 Trim Turbo
Tial 40mm Wategate
Greddy Type R Blow Off Valve
Aluminium Intercooler Piping
Full Race Oil Line Kit
Silicon Couplers / Hose Clamps

which turbo would you recomend...i hav a b16a that is going to be sleeved and bored with 9:1 comp. running around 20psi. see it at full-race.com and go to products...its looks like a very well put together kit in my opinion so im gonna give it a try






[Modified by ShowSi2, 9:22 PM 3/4/2003]

C-Murdock

from what i understand the T04E compressor housing is more efficent. Hopefully TurbochargedSER will chime in here..

*Boostwerks*

Excellent kit...

Probubly the best you can buy I'm sure.

What are your plans for the car? This will help determine which one for you to use.

BTW, it's T3/TO4E

ShowSi2

im gonna send my motor to cali to get forged pistons and rods gonna have it bored out to 1.8 and sleeved running 9:1 comp. Gonna change the intake minifold and throttle body out to what im not sure (any suggestions). Only doin little head work, titanium springs and retainers so i can rev higher. Im gonna run 18-20 psi at the track and around 12 daily

*Boostwerks*

I would go with a 60 trim T3/TO4E IMO.

Prefereably a Precision turbo.




[Modified by Bryson, 3:13 PM 3/4/2003]

ShowSi2

What psi would i need to go up to to make the T3/t04s the best bet?

autoEXturbo

ahhhh, precision, awesome stuff

ShowSi2

what setup are you running? autoEXturbo

Full-Race Geoff

we have some very interesting turbos coming out under our own name. They will have far superior center sections to the current crop of Garret GT turbos, are designed to last 1 million miles and the bushing center sections feel like garret ball bearing units. There wont be any garret components in our turbos.

precision is still a the best garret components based turbo, however

autoEXturbo

Here you go.
Motor
B18C1
Sleeved 84.5mm, arias pistons, eagle rods
Stock gsr head
Turbo
Precision T4 60-1
Inline Pro T4 manifold
Tial 40mm wastegate
Tial bov
3"dp
greddy type 24 intercooler
Fuel
fmu 12:1
440's
255lph pump
safc

Bnjmn

when is the ETA on these magical new units? What Garrett equivalent sizes/trims will be available?

Full-Race Geoff

nothing at all magical, but we finished the first turbos, and are awaiting the final products. These will be a 700hp capable t3t4 that spools like a much smaller turbo.

Bnjmn

Spooling like a Precision SC44 small?

ShowSi2

geoff, when do you expect the turbo to come out and is it still going to be the same price as the regular kit...and do you guys have dealer setup?

F-RTurboCivic

autoEXturbo what compression ratio are you running and what is your car gutted/full interior? Do you know how much it weighs


[Modified by F-RTurboCivic, 1:48 AM 3/5/2003]

Full-Race Geoff

the turbos do not use any garrett parts at all. It should be available in 2 weeks. email me with any other questions.

UberTeg

Large turbos that spool quickly will choke your engine. Do NOT put one of these turbos on your engine. They may spool quick, but they rob power in the form of back pressure. Putting on a smaller turbine to get better spool times is suicide.

93LSivic

Okaaaaay.....thanks for the technical post

Full-Race Geoff

its not a small exhaust side, its larger than either the wheels on the precision and the turbonetics stage 5 wheel.

i know about wheelsize matching, thanks for the concern tho.

UberTeg

I was mostly referring to the T3/T4. But yah, if you can get better spool w/out choking th engine, , that should be a GREAT turbo


edit:

93LSivic, if you need someone to techically explain why a smaller turbo chokes your engine, then you are in no position to be flaming


[Modified by UberTeg, 3:14 AM 3/5/2003]

revhardsi

I bought most of the kit and I can't wait to run it....excellent customer service!!!!

boosted hybrid

I am a soon to be owner of the manifold, downpipe and intercooler. The kit is hands down the best on the market.

DIRep972

iTrader: (1)

I think u need to be more clear on what ur saying. I think ur saying that matching too large of a compressor w/ too small of a turbine will cause surge. when the turbo is spooled up and the motor can't inhale the air(chokes) and causes a reversion of air back towards the turbo. this is what ur saying right? cause thats definitly bad the VW guys have a problem w/ this. When they first started running T3/T4's on the 20v motors that are set up for great low end they would spool up so quick that the compressor would surge.


[Modified by DIRep, 9:06 PM 3/4/2003]

Full-Race Javier

this has been tried before. for example IIRC, the GT2540 is a ball bearing unit with a t25 turbine/housing with a T04S comp wheel.....huge mismatch! when i used to work at maxrev, a customer requested one for his DSM. we installed the kit expecting quick spool and good throttle response. that didnt happen, the turbo had a lot of lag and absolutely zero throttle response. what a waste of $!

rOby

uuuuhhhhh