mrbsponge

hello i am looking to seeif anyone has a pic of thier fullrace topmount running into either one of thier backdoor intercoolers or another brand of intercooler

i know Tony1 builds a badass unit, just seeing if there were any others

redtegger03

Ill take some pics of mine tonight and get back at ya

boostedcivicsir

it is like a 6" straight and a 45* silicone elbow.

vtekthis

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i had my FR backdoor IC modded to accept 3 inch piping, a straight and a 45 coupler worked fine

boostedcivicsir

darren, you using the big f-r back door with the big turbo now? will it flow enough?

mrbsponge

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i had my FR backdoor IC modded to accept 3 inch piping, a straight and a 45 coupler worked fine </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats what i want to do is mod an intercooler to accept 3inch piping as well. i dont know if i will use a F-R intercooler cause after buying thier turbo manifold, im a little on the brokER side


thanks for the help guys and if any of you could donate some pics, that would be killer

V-SPEC 1

bump for pix.

DaveF

here is Barone's


Full-Race topmount/42r. this is the same Full-Race intercooler that was used on his 35r kit.
in order for the 3inch pipe to fit onto the IC, we had to put it in a vice to slightly ovalize the tube(the end tank isnt exactly 3inchs)
on the turbo outlet, i used a half of a 3.5inch v band i had here(the half with the o-ring) along with the clamp.

mrbsponge

thanks dave, nice idea

im thinkin about cutting off the drivers side end tank and reworkin and welding it so i can get a good angle into the intercooler

boostedcivicsir

hey dave and darren, stupid question, but is the 22 x 11x 3 cooler enough for that turbo? i have been told that 700 +- is the ceiling for efficiency.

tony1

Yeah, that's really not enough intercooler to work efficiently with that turbo, but it'll "work" none the less.

DaveF

Ntercooler sprayer

tony1

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To bad the sprayer can't make up for all the pressure drop!!

DaveF

i dont see what you are saying ? the intercooler has less volume than a 3inch pipe ?

tony1

It's not about the volume of it compared to a 3" pipe. It's about the cross sectional area available for hot flow (height x depth). That's where pressure drop happens. I hate to use the straw analogy, but try to shove 85lbs/min of air though a straw. You can only fit so much efficiently, so you end up with more pressure at the inlet side than what makes it though the "ic" and you now have pressure drop. When you use an intercooler way past what it was designed for, it's not only the temperature increase, it's the pressure drop that you get. That's why it's always better to go taller and thicker on a core, not longer. You don't want to go too thick either, or you risk not getting enough air flow through the core, for cooling.

Technically a 24x6x2.5" core has more volume than a 3" pipe, would you use it for 800whp?

92eg6

iTrader: (1)

i was having the same question, but that pic explains it well enough...wat kind of coupler is that?

alpha

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's not about the volume of it compared to a 3" pipe. It's about the cross sectional area available for hot flow (height x depth). That's where pressure drop happens. I hate to use the straw analogy, but try to shove 85lbs/min of air though a straw. You can only fit so much efficiently, so you end up with more pressure at the inlet side than what makes it though the "ic" and you now have pressure drop. When you use an intercooler way past what it was designed for, it's not only the temperature increase, it's the pressure drop that you get. That's why it's always better to go taller and thicker on a core, not longer. You don't want to go too thick either, or you risk not getting enough air flow through the core, for cooling.
Technically a 24x6x2.5" core has more volume than a 3" pipe, would you use it for 800whp? </TD></TR></TABLE>



I'm almost positive this is the problem I had with a car I tuned recently. Will see with the new intercooler

Boosted Chemist

iTrader: (1)

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I'm almost positive this is the problem I had with a car I tuned recently. Will see with the new intercooler</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wish i had these problems

done

mrbsponge

very nice looking, i like the black, im sending all my stuff out to be thermal'd. got any pics of both sides of the turbo, just wanna see what mine will look like when it comes back


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done

exhaust housing = swaintech, compressor side = anodized black

alpha

Mike. Did you ever get any recent datalogs with the intercooler your running? I'm interested in the AIT's still

mrbsponge

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yeah with the AIR manifold on, normal day up here 25psi of boost i was seeing about 90-100

without it i remember them being about 115-120

on a cooler day with the AIR i have seen in the mid 80s

done

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yeah with the AIR manifold on, normal day up here 25psi of boost i was seeing about 90-100

without it i remember them being about 115-120

on a cooler day with the AIR i have seen in the mid 80s </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats pretty good!

alpha

Good stuff. If you remember what were the ambient temperatures? Still run the oem air intake temp sensor?