BROOD

I thought I would share this in the FI forum. This is not really anything new in terms of technology but I ran across some fuji impression film. I took this fuji film and used it on a sleeved block I had around. Here are some pics of the results...enjoy












Modified by SLPR at 8:26 AM 5/1/2003

btl fed

I don't know that much about engines....but what are you doing? checking the seals?

MiraiZ

looks as if hes pointing to a potential week point or a leak

BROOD

I'm checking the clamp loading on the headgasket to cyl block seal.

I'm pointing to the red lines which show the clamp load force imprinted on the fuji film, those spots are not nessesarily weak points. A darker red impression suggests a higher clamp force than a weaker red line or an absence of a line.

bambooluv

nice one man. Never thought of doing something like that with that stuff.

Arturbo

That is pretty cool.

boostin b16

good idea! looks like that would be a good way to identify warpage in a head!

b18bturbo

whre do you get this type of film its kewl i need to get some

BROOD

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All I know is that it is expensive *** all hell. I have been saving it for a rainy day.
At least I know this sleeved block is

*If I find a good source for this film I will share*


Modified by SLPR at 8:25 AM 5/1/2003

Arturbo

In the long run a straight edge and feeler gauge would be cheaper.

b18bturbo

is that navistar international product. if so i got hookups there at the dallas plant.. not a problem just let me know what the part number is

BROOD

It is not a NAV product.

b18bturbo

i found these guys on the web very helpful they have it but expensive is right
http://www.sensorprod.com/index.html

Evil DOHC

Hey Guys,
I work for a company called Sensor Products Inc. You can find us on the web at
http://www.sensorprod.com or contact me directly at 973-428-8985. We are the main distributor in the united states for the pressure indicating film. Most race car manufactures have been using this film for years, but haven't publicaly announced the technology.
I never thought that I would see this on honda-tech. I actually checked a built motor on a friends race car and found out that the o-rings where sealing incorrectly. Its worth to spend a couple of hundred dollars and make sure 100 percent that you have a perfectly flat surface. We also offer analysis on the film etc. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or would like a sample of the material.
Vadim

Evil DOHC

Here is the direct link for the product on our web-site.

http://www.sensorprod.com/pressurex.html

b18bturbo

wow hwat a small world can i order some of that film who do i need to talk to to get a deal on some

Evil DOHC

Give me a call directly 973-428-8985, I can def. work out some sort of deal for anybody that would want this type of material.
Vadim

BROOD

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"It's because I'm cool and I make fire breathing diesel engines" If you think you have high cylinder pressures and need flat surfaces...it is a stab in the dark to what I work with.


Yep, expensive. The fuji brand that I can get is around $500 for a roll.

Evil DOHC

Hey SLPR,

Who do you purchase the film from? You can get about 25 or so gasket tests out of a box of film. Anybody that wants to do these tests can purchase the film by the foot, etc.
Do you want to send me that image to analyze it? I can do the first analyses for free if you would like. Also, what psi range of film are you using? Are you using the medium or the high film?

shortyz

cool stuff!@

b18bturbo

think about a cummins singature series used in the international 9200i that thing is like 20:1 compression extreme cyl temp as well as over 1400ft lbs at 1500 rpm

BROOD

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Yep, engines with high c.r. (20:1 or so), high boost pressures (30-40 psi), fuel injection pressures of &gt;20,000 psi, and higher BTU fuel (diesel) will see some impressive cylinder pressures and temperatures.

**wow I never thought some pics of this film would spur so much interest**

Evil DOHC

Cummins is one of many customers we have. Honda, GM, Ford, etc. all use this film in the qa and assembly line procedures. This film holds a 2% accuracy and nothing else can come even close. Lots of car manufacturers are not only using the film for headgasket surfaces, they are using it for any type of contact that they need measured. For example, brake/clutch applications, door seals, intake/exhaust manifold gaskets, tired tread analysis, etc.
Vadim

hatchy

Fuji isn't just photo. They also make a nice little AWD card called a Subaru.