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Old 11-22-2002, 08:48 AM
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So we find out the turbo Si has a cracked sleeve. I finally got the damn turbo to hold 15 psi pretty steady, removed the FMU and had it running pretty well. My friend stops by the shop just to bs the other day and one of the guys there notices oil in the coolant reservoir Wasnt there a few days ago so it mustve gone out earlier this week. The engine already has wiseco endyn pistons, eagle rods and a block guard. I told him that nows the time to sleeve the block but i have no idea how long it takes to have the work done. I thought about looking for a stock si bottom end and just throwing it in for now. The reason for this is because we need the car on the road ASAP and i heard golden eagle takes over 4 weeks to return a block.

Do any of you guys know someone selling a b16 bottom end?


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Old 11-22-2002, 08:55 AM
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Default Re: finally hold 15 psi and we cracked a sleeve :( (5speedv6)

Is it possible a head gasket is just leaking? I never cracked a sleeve but I would think it takes more boost than that.
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the heads off and you can see the crack.
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Default Re: finally hold 15 psi and we cracked a sleeve :( (Overblown-Teg)

it could be a head gasket ... no dout...... pull the head..off..... see what is up... let us know
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Default Re: finally hold 15 psi and we cracked a sleeve :( (First Gen Man)

what were you using for fuel management since you removed the FMU?
Old 11-22-2002, 09:12 AM
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440cc injectors, aeromotive 1:1 fpr, aem fuel rail, walbro 255lph hp, v-afc for fuel right now.
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Default Re: finally hold 15 psi and we cracked a sleeve :( (5speedv6)

gotcha.. I was under the impression from your post it was still together. Sorry I can't help with the block. Hey if you have the cash. I think jdmhondaparts.com will sell you a b16 for around $600
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Default Re: finally hold 15 psi and we cracked a sleeve :( (Overblown-Teg)

I appreciate all the replies

We are leaning towards another b16 block and just get it bored out for the endyn pistons. This seems to be the fastest solution right now as well as the cheapest.

Im not happy because i get to work on my car AND this car again.
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Default Re: finally hold 15 psi and we cracked a sleeve :( (5speedv6)

sorry to hear - the blockguard didnt guard jack sheit for you apparently.

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Default Re: finally hold 15 psi and we cracked a sleeve :( (falconGSR)

Well the motor has been beat on for a while so i'm not suprised it went. I told him that even though the bottom end is built, the motor is NOT bulletproof. To be honest, im suprised it didnt blow earlier. Sometimes i really regret infecting my friend with this disease of modding cars.
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Default Re: finally hold 15 psi and we cracked a sleeve :( (5speedv6)

Don't be so hard on yourself...BOOST HAPPENS.
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Default Re: finally hold 15 psi and we cracked a sleeve :( (5speedv6)

for how long where you boosting at 15 psi??kms?
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Default Re: finally hold 15 psi and we cracked a sleeve :( (DollaR_)

next time you're boosting so high get a propor fuel setup like hondata or something equivelent (sp?).
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Default Re: finally hold 15 psi and we cracked a sleeve :( (sutrusu)

Also, any stock motor can hold 15psi
b16 is a lot safer because of its rod & stroke
but without backing off enough timing
**** like that happen


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Default Re: finally hold 15 psi and we cracked a sleeve :( (Quick 200k Mile Motor)

Was this on pump gas?
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Default Re: finally hold 15 psi and we cracked a sleeve :( (yellowsub)

Detonation will own Anything at any boost level.

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Default Re: finally hold 15 psi and we cracked a sleeve :( (lazerus)

Detonation will own Anything at any boost level.
ditto on that... however with proper tuning detonation can be eliminated. if you don't sleeve the block and decide just to get another b16a block do yourself a favor and get Hondata and get the car tuned properly so you have no detonation. oh, and *DON'T* run shitty gas with 15PSI on a stock bottom end.

a guy locally ran 20+ psi on his stock b-series bottom end forever because he tuned it well. he only blew it up after his waste gate spring broke and stayed closed so he boosted way high for a split second without realizing it. it went "poof".
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Default Re: finally hold 15 psi and we cracked a sleeve :( (YumVTEC)

hey my buddy has a si block from a 99 si....just sitting at the shop he works at...its bare except for the crank and i think knock sensor..he'll prolly let it go for pretty cheap, his email is Lev16gt@aol.com .....just put "SI bottom end" or "b16 bottom end" in the title of the email and tell him Andy told you about the block...good luck
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Default Re: finally hold 15 psi and we cracked a sleeve :( (YumVTEC)

Detonation will own Anything at any boost level.

ditto on that... however with proper tuning detonation can be eliminated. if you don't sleeve the block and decide just to get another b16a block do yourself a favor and get Hondata and get the car tuned properly so you have no detonation. oh, and *DON'T* run shitty gas with 15PSI on a stock bottom end.

a guy locally ran 20+ psi on his stock b-series bottom end forever because he tuned it well. he only blew it up after his waste gate spring broke and stayed closed so he boosted way high for a split second without realizing it. it went "poof".
Damnit Trevor, The hose on the boost port of the wastegate blew off ( No zip tie ) it was so reliable that I never checked anything but oil and coolant.

Whenever you add boost you should always take out timing. Rule of thumb is usually, 1 degree per pound of boost.
Boost does not hurt engines, bad tuning does. If you take out enough timing and add alot of manifold pressure you will see a nice increase in torque. The trick is to move the PEAK cylinder pressure way past TDC


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