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fanta! Jan 12, 2006 08:15 PM

Filterless?
 


been trying to find a small filter to fit in my engine bay but cant seem to come up with anything.


wondering how many of you guys run with no filter? dont live in to dusty of an area

beerbongskickass Jan 12, 2006 08:16 PM

Re: Filterless? (fanta!)
 
I haven't had a filter for 2 years since I went turbo...

mrbsponge Jan 12, 2006 08:20 PM

i only use a screen mesh, but if you check out K&Ns site they have a filter for everything, with dimensions and all

AspectIndustries Jan 12, 2006 10:19 PM

Re: (mrbsponge)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrbsponge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i only use a screen mesh, but if you check out K&Ns site they have a filter for everything, with dimensions and all</TD></TR></TABLE> https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

illestrolla247 Jan 12, 2006 10:47 PM

Re: (synik)
 
3 layerd screen mesh here

2point2 Jan 13, 2006 05:48 AM

Re: (illestrolla247)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by illestrolla247 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">3 layerd screen mesh here</TD></TR></TABLE>

I bet you're getting much less air than a filter.

the K&N website https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

92vx-t Jan 13, 2006 05:52 AM

Re: (2point2)
 
Try an hks mushroom filter, thats what im going to so because my old k&n wont fit.

vtec.dc2 Jan 13, 2006 06:07 AM

Re: Filterless? (fanta!)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fanta! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

been trying to find a small filter to fit in my engine bay but cant seem to come up with anything.


wondering how many of you guys run with no filter? dont live in to dusty of an area</TD></TR></TABLE>

check k&n, they make just about every size filter

Everyones Hero Jan 13, 2006 06:49 AM

Re: (92vx-t)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92vx-t &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try an hks mushroom filter, thats what im going to so because my old k&n wont fit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've heard of people sucking their HKSs through their turbos.

I've been running filterless. Been meaning to get one, but I have to get a slimline fan ect, ect first.

92vx-t Jan 13, 2006 07:00 AM

Re: (Everyones Hero)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Everyones Hero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I've heard of people sucking their HKSs through their turbos.

I've been running filterless. Been meaning to get one, but I have to get a slimline fan ect, ect first.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Where from maryland are you from? And are you running a screen over the inlet ot just nothing?

f1 vtec Jan 13, 2006 07:06 AM

Re: (92vx-t)
 
try the hks mushroom filter foam between 2 screens, it wont take much space and wont require modifying anything such as getting a slim line fan.

boostedcivicsir Jan 13, 2006 07:07 AM

Re: (92vx-t)
 
i will opnly go filterless on the dyno and the track, but driving i will not go filterless.

http://www.sportcompacttuning.com/update3.jpg

Everyones Hero Jan 13, 2006 07:08 AM

Re: (92vx-t)
 
Mechanicsville/LaPlata area. I'm running a screen over it for right now. It's saved my ass before.

Last fall I was going down a back road enjoying the weather when I lost boost all of a sudden. It was pig fucking slow. I got to a store and pulled over. A leaf had gotten sucked up onto the compressor. Luckly the screen kept it from going through my motor.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by f1 vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">try the hks mushroom filter foam between 2 screens, it wont take much space and wont require modifying anything such as getting a slim line fan.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Where can you get the HKS filter foam? Do you have to buy an entire filter or do they sell just the filter element?

I actually found a good fitting filter for my turbo inlet. I think it's a racing go-kart filter.

splitime Jan 13, 2006 07:16 AM

Re: (Everyones Hero)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Everyones Hero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Where can you get the HKS filter foam? Do you have to buy an entire filter or do they sell just the filter element?

I actually found a good fitting filter for my turbo inlet. I think it's a racing go-kart filter.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wouldn't suggest this route either, you really want a full size filter... the area of the filter will control the amount of air you get into the compressor. A patch of it just on top of a screen will yield much LESS air than a 3-6inch filter that has xxx times the amount of surface area.

I'm running a screen right now out of necessity, working on filtering though.

Finland Jan 13, 2006 07:17 AM

Running a turbo without a filter is like driving a car without insurance in the short term. In the long term all the fine particles that are blown into the motor at high velocity will slowly beat away on the aluminum, and valve seats, valves, etc.. Just be creative and make it happen, or change your setup so that it facilitates a filter.

BiG Chris Jan 13, 2006 08:23 AM

im runnning a SC and im scared to go filterless since the compressor has very little clearance. go to a local race shop have them bend some tubes for you so you can get a filter in there. weapon-r has done it for people before i know

Erik B Jan 13, 2006 11:46 AM

I just owned my compressor wheel running no mess or filter...never thought I would cuz the Mugen front bumper runs so far back but it happend. I'll be getting SOMETHING to run when Im not at the track, regardless if I lose 30 or so whp with it

illi Adik Jan 13, 2006 12:05 PM

Re: (Erik B)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Erik B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just owned my compressor wheel running no mess or filter...never thought I would cuz the Mugen front bumper runs so far back but it happend. I'll be getting SOMETHING to run when Im not at the track, regardless if I lose 30 or so whp with it</TD></TR></TABLE>

Was the power difference ever confirmed regarding filter vs. no filter?

f1 vtec Jan 14, 2006 09:19 AM

Re: (Everyones Hero)
 
[QUOTE=Everyones Hero]Where can you get the HKS filter foam? Do you have to buy an entire filter or do they sell just the filter element?
QUOTE]

you could probably get it from any shop that sells the hks filter, or you could even try ebay.

Da K00l Aid Mayun Jan 14, 2006 03:13 PM

Re: (f1 vtec)
 
you have to get the filter and adapter together I believe.

Kelly. Jan 14, 2006 03:23 PM

Re: (illi Addict)
 
run #57 was WITH a filter
run #58 without a filter

we left the piping on the turbo so it was pullin air from right behind the passenger headlight.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...vsnofilter.jpg

we also made one pull with the intake tube off (and no filter)
the turbo was pulling air from right behind the radiator that time.
we lost 10 whp.

filter on https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

11SEC CIV Jan 14, 2006 03:48 PM

Re: (llewsirc)
 
^^ thats not conclusive evidence if these runs were back to back

Jockobo Jan 14, 2006 09:28 PM

Re: (12SEC CIV)
 
if you have a nice turbo might as well run one...mine's got a few chips on the wheel for not running a filter

jacky599r Jan 15, 2006 07:14 AM

Re: Filterless? (fanta!)
 
Am i screwed big time in this case? i wan a filter!!! was thinking abt pluging in a filter to the inlet and get a heat shield. its sucking hot air in since its behind the radiator. might wanna get some flexi pipe to channel so ram air. what u guys think https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif




Modified by jacky599r at 8:42 AM 1/15/2006

jacky599r Jan 15, 2006 07:37 AM

DAMN. I CANT UPLOAD MY PIC. whats wrong!


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