Do you need block sleeves to run 450whp?
01-06-2005, 12:00 PM
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Do you need block sleeves to run 450whp?
I plan on putting my teg on turbo i want to do it right so what kinda internals am im looking at to hit 450whp. Does it need block sleeves for this kinda horespower. What are some other things i have to do im a pretty accomplished tech so just basics o by the way i have a93 acura integra with b18a i plan making into ls vetc
thanks for all the info
thanks for all the info
01-06-2005, 12:04 PM
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Re: Do you need block sleeves to run 450whp? (LS_VTEC_Hybrid)
THere have been plenty of peope who have ran that much and more with stock sleeves, it basically comes down to do you feel safe with spending the money on everything else to have your sleeves maybe to fail?
01-06-2005, 12:27 PM
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Re: Do you need block sleeves to run 450whp? (FOrSfEd)
Personally I wouldnt risk it on 450whp, if that is your goal save up for some sleeves
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Modified by redturbocivic at 2:36 PM 1/6/2005
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Re: Do you need block sleeves to run 450whp? (redturbocivic)
450 on race gas with a safe tune sounds perfectly fine on stock sleeves to me. There's a big aura around that the stock sleeves are weak, but I personally have never seen a Honda sleeve break straight up from too much power. It's ALWAYS been from detonation.
01-06-2005, 12:39 PM
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Re: Do you need block sleeves to run 450whp? (turboEGsedan)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboEGsedan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">450 on race gas with a safe tune sounds perfectly fine on stock sleeves to me. There's a big aura around that the stock sleeves are weak, but I personally have never seen a Honda sleeve break straight up from too much power. It's ALWAYS been from detonation.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats true
thats true
01-06-2005, 12:47 PM
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Re: Do you need block sleeves to run 450whp? (turboEGsedan)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboEGsedan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">450 on race gas with a safe tune sounds perfectly fine on stock sleeves to me. There's a big aura around that the stock sleeves are weak, but I personally have never seen a Honda sleeve break straight up from too much power. It's ALWAYS been from detonation.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm gonna have to disagree with that. My stock sleeves on my LS gave up @ a little under 300hp. And yes, my car was professional tuned and detonation was not a factor either. Not all motors are the same even though they were made with the same components from the Honda plant.
I'm gonna have to disagree with that. My stock sleeves on my LS gave up @ a little under 300hp. And yes, my car was professional tuned and detonation was not a factor either. Not all motors are the same even though they were made with the same components from the Honda plant.
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01-06-2005, 12:50 PM
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Re: Do you need block sleeves to run 450whp? (turboEGsedan)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turboEGsedan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">450 on race gas with a safe tune sounds perfectly fine on stock sleeves to me. There's a big aura around that the stock sleeves are weak, but I personally have never seen a Honda sleeve break straight up from too much power. It's ALWAYS been from detonation.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That is true, but imagine this. Let's say you get everything together, pistons, rods, head, etc. Spend all that time and $ and get it to the dyno. The dyno session goes without a hitch and 450 whp is achieved. That's fine, everything is great, but then one day your driving it and a hickup in the fuel supply or injector fails momentarily, then what? KABOOOOOMM. All that time and $ washed down the drain for what, to save a few hunderd bucks? Not in my eyes. You may think that I am being biased here, but we got into sleeving for a reason. I would never spend that kind of money on my motor and skimp on an easy and readily available item. Just my .02$
That is true, but imagine this. Let's say you get everything together, pistons, rods, head, etc. Spend all that time and $ and get it to the dyno. The dyno session goes without a hitch and 450 whp is achieved. That's fine, everything is great, but then one day your driving it and a hickup in the fuel supply or injector fails momentarily, then what? KABOOOOOMM. All that time and $ washed down the drain for what, to save a few hunderd bucks? Not in my eyes. You may think that I am being biased here, but we got into sleeving for a reason. I would never spend that kind of money on my motor and skimp on an easy and readily available item. Just my .02$
01-06-2005, 12:52 PM
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Re: Do you need block sleeves to run 450whp? (GoldenEagleMfg.com)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GoldenEagleMfg.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That is true, but imagine this. Let's say you get everything together, pistons, rods, head, etc. Spend all that time and $ and get it to the dyno. The dyno session goes without a hitch and 450 whp is achieved. That's fine, everything is great, but then one day your driving it and a hickup in the fuel supply or injector fails momentarily, then what? KABOOOOOMM. All that time and $ washed down the drain for what, to save a few hunderd bucks? Not in my eyes. You may think that I am being biased here, but we got into sleeving for a reason. I would never spend that kind of money on my motor and skimp on an easy and readily available item. Just my .02$</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeap...exactly what he said!!
That is true, but imagine this. Let's say you get everything together, pistons, rods, head, etc. Spend all that time and $ and get it to the dyno. The dyno session goes without a hitch and 450 whp is achieved. That's fine, everything is great, but then one day your driving it and a hickup in the fuel supply or injector fails momentarily, then what? KABOOOOOMM. All that time and $ washed down the drain for what, to save a few hunderd bucks? Not in my eyes. You may think that I am being biased here, but we got into sleeving for a reason. I would never spend that kind of money on my motor and skimp on an easy and readily available item. Just my .02$</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeap...exactly what he said!!
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