D16Z6 valve unshrouding: worth it?
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D16Z6 valve unshrouding: worth it?
Searching around the last couple days for anything else I may get done to the P08 head before I have all my stuff to put it back together and HOPEFULLY never have to remove it unless I want to.. I read in an older post of some build that the D16Z6 would potentially benefit from a bit of valve unshrouding. Looking into WHAT that was turned up lots of info, just not on Hondas. Looking at the CC on my head, I do see where some improvement can be made but is it really bad enough? Are the CC walls here too close for comfort?
Anyone with some more port/machinist info, experience, etc please chime in! I know there's lots of B-series runners here and those combustion chambers, stock for stock, look like hell compared to mine. I expected to see WAAAYYY more casting flaws than I cleaned up just from comparison...
Anyhow.. below is a decent shot showing my shrouding as is and uncut. (Havent tried to open them up at all yet).
Anyone with some more port/machinist info, experience, etc please chime in! I know there's lots of B-series runners here and those combustion chambers, stock for stock, look like hell compared to mine. I expected to see WAAAYYY more casting flaws than I cleaned up just from comparison...
Anyhow.. below is a decent shot showing my shrouding as is and uncut. (Havent tried to open them up at all yet).
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Re: D16Z6 valve unshrouding: worth it?
Benefit, sure, but by how much is the question really...or is the amount of work/$ it takes worth the % benefited w/ your particular goal.
https://www.enginelabs.com/tech-stor...flow-dynamics/
(We've actually got a D build sitting here now for fab that I specced the motor for a little over 5 years ago, I'll have to make a thread in a few days)
https://www.enginelabs.com/tech-stor...flow-dynamics/
(We've actually got a D build sitting here now for fab that I specced the motor for a little over 5 years ago, I'll have to make a thread in a few days)
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Re: D16Z6 valve unshrouding: worth it?
Benefit, sure, but by how much is the question really...or is the amount of work/$ it takes worth the % benefited w/ your particular goal.
https://www.enginelabs.com/tech-stor...flow-dynamics/
(We've actually got a D build sitting here now for fab that I specced the motor for a little over 5 years ago, I'll have to make a thread in a few days)
https://www.enginelabs.com/tech-stor...flow-dynamics/
(We've actually got a D build sitting here now for fab that I specced the motor for a little over 5 years ago, I'll have to make a thread in a few days)
oh yeah, post that build thread!!
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Re: D16Z6 valve unshrouding: worth it?
Looking here, this is the stock bore headgasket, i have 1mm of room to tinker with before the gasket threatens to overhang into the CC. Now, it will be a 76mm gasket so technically, I'll have 2mm space. I have marked out already the material that could be removed with a sharpie. Turns out it is juuuuust a bit over 1mm around the shroud, but when the larger gasket is put on, it won't hang over into the chamber. I would think that removing 1mm worth of material between the cc wall and valves would net a decent result. Thoughts?
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Re: D16Z6 valve unshrouding: worth it?
Any other input? Great article btw, Autoworks.
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Re: D16Z6 valve unshrouding: worth it?
If you have all the valves out I would at the least blend the valve seat and ports together. The core shift causes a bit of a ridge on some or most ports transitioning to the valve seat. It's the easiest way to gain flow and doesn't require much skill just a few flapper bits and a dremel tool.
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Re: D16Z6 valve unshrouding: worth it?
If you have all the valves out I would at the least blend the valve seat and ports together. The core shift causes a bit of a ridge on some or most ports transitioning to the valve seat. It's the easiest way to gain flow and doesn't require much skill just a few flapper bits and a dremel tool.
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Re: D16Z6 valve unshrouding: worth it?
From the looks of it the valves are pretty well unshrouded from the factory. I would spend the time blending the valve seats instead. You will make more gains there and not have to worry about making sure all combustion chambers are shaped identically.
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