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Old 05-28-2005, 07:39 PM
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This is my project. What do you guys think of my set up? Hopefully I could finish this before the end of this year. Will show pictures during procedures. If I forgot anything let me know.

D16y8 Turbo Build Up
300 WHP GOAL on pump gas

Intake Manifold: Edelbrock Manifold
Throttle Body: Edelbrock 65mm
Fuel Rail: AEM
Fuel Pressure Regulator: AEM
Fuel Pressure Gauge: BnM
Injectors: RC; size undecided
Cam Gear: JG/Edelbrock
Camshaft: Undecided
Fuel Filter: AEM
Fuel Pump: Walbro 255lhp High Pressure
Valve Stems: Undecided
Pistons: Weisco 9:1 stock bore
Rods: Eagle H-beams
Sleves: Darton
Exhaust Manifold: Full-race or Neukin equal length
Intercooler: Back door style; size undecided
Intercooler Piping: 2.5 inch chargepipe from intercooler to throttle body
Wastegate: Tial; size undecided with spring
Blow Off Valve: undecided
Radiator: Fluidyne
Radiator Fan: Fal
Motor Mounts: Hasport Extreme drag
Pulley: UR single
Clutch: ACT
Flywheel: ACT
Exhaust: 3 inch
Management: Hondata
Head: Port and Polish w/ 3 angle valve
Block: Balanced and Blueprinted
Turbo Timer: Apexi
Boost Control: Apexi
Studs: ARP
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A) Full-Race doesn't make a D-series mani

B) You're forgetting a turbo
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Napoleon Dynamite &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B) You're forgetting a turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>


Lol! Plus half the crap on that list is very unnecessary.
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All that extra fuel stuff isn't necessary (rail, filter, fpr, etc...). Don't need the cam gear. I have been thinking about trying out the ZEX cam. A 60 or 62mm throttle body should be fine. Edelbrock intake will work, but I would proly just make one myself. I would go with atleast 750cc injectors, maybe bigger, so you have room to upgrade. Stock radiator and fan will be fine. Aftermarket sleeves would be a waste of money for 300whp. I don't like the FR manifold or anything that looks like it, everybody and their mom has one, plus they are way too expensive. Hondata is also a waste of money, there is no point in buying that at all, use a free ROM editor or neptune. Just doing a simple PnP w/valve job ain't going to do ****, I would just worry about spending money elsewhere and building the bottom end. Oh and turbo timers are for ricers. Just looks like a lot of that stuff you listed isn't necessary. I might be forgetting a few things, but I just skimmed over the list.
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your right full race does not make them but they did tell me that they can make me one. all they need is the downpayment. as for the fuel stuff and cam gear and other stuff. i already had those when i was running na. for the trubo im still undecided to what i want to use. im still searching and reading on them. i am leaning towards garret t3 60-1. see i dont want full boost to early and full boost to late. oh ya let me know what is unnecessary beacuse that will save me some money. thanks
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PROJEK98 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is my project. What do you guys think of my set up? Hopefully I could finish this before the end of this year. Will show pictures during procedures. If I forgot anything let me know.

D16y8 Turbo Build Up
300 WHP GOAL on pump gas

Intake Manifold: Edelbrock Manifold Stay stock.
Throttle Body: Edelbrock 65mm You could stay stock - this one is iffy - you got the size right though, 65mm for 2.5" IC piping.
Fuel Rail: AEM Stay stock.
Fuel Pressure Regulator: AEM
Fuel Pressure Gauge: BnM
Injectors: RC; size undecided
Cam Gear: JG/Edelbrock
Camshaft: Undecided Get a Zex 105300 or Crower stage 2
Fuel Filter: AEM
Fuel Pump: Walbro 255lhp High Pressure
Valve Stems: Undecided You mean valves? Stay stock.
Pistons: Weisco 9:1 stock bore
Rods: Eagle H-beams
Sleves: Darton Stay stock sleeves.
Exhaust Manifold: Full-race or Neukin equal length
Intercooler: Back door style; size undecided
Intercooler Piping: 2.5 inch chargepipe from intercooler to throttle body
Wastegate: Tial; size undecided with spring
Blow Off Valve: undecided I recommend tial.
Radiator: Fluidyne Definitely no! Stay stock or get a dual core copper rad.
Radiator Fan: Fal
Motor Mounts: Hasport Extreme drag Just get jimfabs.
Pulley: UR single
Clutch: ACT
Flywheel: ACT
Exhaust: 3 inch
Management: Hondata
Head: Port and Polish w/ 3 angle valve
Block: Balanced and Blueprinted
Turbo Timer: Apexi
Boost Control: Apexi
Studs: ARP
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Geez, I've never seem anyone so willing to throw away money. You must still be new to this. For 300whp? I'm shooting for 400whp when my SC50 d16y8 build is finally done and I don't even have half the crap you listed.
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my favorite is the aem fuel filter, hehehe

anyone know if the stock d sleeves can handle 300 ?
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alot of you guys are critizing some **** which i think he could still use...
BBKA, you tell him to stick with stock sleeves for 300 whp, then tell him to get 750 cc's or higher in case he upgrades...
stock sleeves... if you want a solid block, sleeving is the way to go... don't tell him not to get it... its always a good investment..

the edelbrock IM is a decent upgrade, why would u advise against it?

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Well 750's are like the same price as 440's... might as well. And aftermarket sleeves would be an extra $1,000 that he doesn't really need to spend. Why would it be a good investment? He won't get close to full price out of it when he decides to sell it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by igo4bmx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the edelbrock IM is a decent upgrade, why would u advise against it?
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Because he only wants 300whp... That means streetable - and the y8 mani is really good to begin with. Getting an aftermarket will just give more high-end, possibly at the expense of low-end torque.
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300whp out of a d16 won't require that much effort. Just beef up the bottom end with rods/pistons, tune it well, and crank the boost up.
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wasn't telling him not to get sleeved,
I was curious about when they're needed
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Pistons and Rods {a well tuned EMS is the most important factor} and a say a t3/to4e .48ex. No fancy manifold, decent intercooler and 550cc yeah and the walboro. The power is easy to make but keeping your head on may prove difficult with a dodgy tune.
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isn't .48 alil small to make 300whp with on a sohc?
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No
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Sounds like some 16year old on a pipedream xmas list. Tell us the reason you need each thing cause I doubt you know what your talking about. Looks like you just looked through a magazine for flashy parts.
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so do you guys think that .48 a/r would help me reach my goal of 300whp? how soon will i reach full boost compared to a .63 a/r? and no i am not no 16 year old kid that has a xmas list. my list is what i want to use to build my daily driven and reliable car on pump gas. why critize my build up? i dont critize your plans for your car. your choice is your choice. and for the info i already have most of the parts prior to this build when i was running all motor. all im asking is help in the turbo sizing because i dont want something to small or to big for my goal. so any help would be appreciated. and for <U>EGIZZLE8 just because I have your xmas list before you could get them dont hate, appreciate</U>
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Its even worse that you got all those random parts for an all motor car in the first place
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I highly doubt anyone is being jealous of your parts list. I believe people are trying to get you to realize that to reach your 300whp goal you dont need the vast majority of the stuff you listed. eventhough you say have most of the stuff prior to the build it doesnt add up. some, but not most unless you did a pretty bad n/a build up. in the stuff you want that you couldnt have had before on a n/a set up (inj, cam, 9:1 pistons, sleeves, mani, waste gate, bov, fmic, flywheel/clutch, and 3" exhaust) you are looking at more than 4 grand.

dont take it personally, people are trying to let you know you can achieve the same goals for a small fraction of the price. your car can be reliable dd without all that, if you want to buy it so be it.

if you want to spend some money buy a GT28rs
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when people give you criticizm,
listen and learn from it,

if you're going to argue, don't post asking for input in the first place
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"Sounds like some 16year old on a pipedream xmas list. Tell us the reason you need each thing cause I doubt you know what your talking about. Looks like you just looked through a magazine for flashy parts. "

constructive criticism eh, whats he supposed to learn from that, Tad? if ur gonna cut this kid down keep that **** to yourself or at least tell him what he should do instead rather than talk **** to him. thats why he posted on here in the first place, to get help and advice, not to be treated like ****.


the setup looks good man, yeah, youve got some extra **** on that list thats probably not needed for 300hp but if you plan on trying to sqeeze more n more power out of it most of those items will be. If i were you id just get the essentials first, then add on later as needed. with the block tho, since its apart when youre doing rods and pistons, mind as well get it sleeved so you dont have to worry about pulling it a month later when youre shooting for 400hp+. other than that, good luck and let us know how it turns out.
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I put down 330whp on pump gas on my d-series. It took 20psi from a 60trim turbo with 9.2:1 compression.

My quick dohc setup:

sleeved block
rods + pistons
jg pro-series head
jg 1001 cams
tubular (sidewinder) manifold
60trim t3/t04e
880cc injectors
Neptune ecu
stock rail, stock lines etc

liam
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by luti &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
if you want to spend some money buy a GT28rs</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup, I would go with the GT28RS with the .63 ar turbine housing

It's a farkin sweet turbo and will get you to your goals with quick spool. The ball bearing cartridge makes for a super fat torque curve!

I'm getting one of those turbos if I ever do a full d-series build up.
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oh i could take the criticizm. that dont bother me. i just wanted to know peoples input. but heres something for the guys that criticise. what about the other guys that get their sohc block sleeved from BENSON. you guys dont criticize them. instead you all reply with nice set up or if i had that type of money i would do that too. but i dont see no criticizm. well but anyways i already started on the project this weekend by disassembling the block and head to get ready to ship out.

for liam821 how do you like your turbo set up? how soon do you get to full boost? very interested in your set up. were did you get your exhaust manifold at?
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I was under the impression that stock sleeves were good for 400+ whp if you kept the stock redline and had a good tune. you seem to have your mind set on sleeves for some reason though.


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