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Afist92 May 5, 2012 12:30 PM

D15B Boost
 
So block has been rebuilt and all new internals. Bought it from a friend has 13,000 miles on the clock just wondering how much boost it can handle and any recomendations for budget build turbo set up. size, brand, etc..any help much appreciated

Dc4LsTeG May 5, 2012 12:36 PM

Re: D15B Boost
 
You go off how much HP not psi

grumblemarc May 5, 2012 12:53 PM

Re: D15B Boost
 
Rebuilt with what? The fact that you didn't even mention these details tells me you have no clue about anything boost related and need to stop and read a bunch before you even post your next question.

jaefboy May 5, 2012 08:14 PM

Re: D15B Boost
 
good buy

Spawne32 May 5, 2012 08:59 PM

Re: D15B Boost
 
Why?

Afist92 May 11, 2012 08:33 PM

Re: D15B Boost
 

Originally Posted by grumblemarc (Post 47299223)
Rebuilt with what? The fact that you didn't even mention these details tells me you have no clue about anything boost related and need to stop and read a bunch before you even post your next question.

The fact that I didn't specify what the rebuild internals were is due to the fact it's oem replacements so it was implied. I just wanted to know a low budget build and how much boost it would handle before it just lifted the head off. Would appreciate it if you could just help me out and not criticize/critique my post. I bought the car as is so you are correct in the aspect that I don't know exactly what was put in. All my friend said was he rebuilt the whole motor with stock internals and he was done putting time and money into the car.

Dc4LsTeG May 11, 2012 08:43 PM

Re: D15B Boost
 

Originally Posted by Afist92 (Post 47330298)
The fact that I didn't specify what the rebuild internals were is due to the fact it's oem replacements so it was implied. I just wanted to know a low budget build and how much boost it would handle before it just lifted the head off. Would appreciate it if you could just help me out and not criticize/critique my post. I bought the car as is so you are correct in the aspect that I don't know exactly what was put in. All my friend said was he rebuilt the whole motor with stock internals and he was done putting time and money into the car.


Originally Posted by Dc4LsTeG (Post 47299158)
You go off how much HP not psi


Swap'DShuttle May 11, 2012 08:49 PM

Re: D15B Boost
 
Something like a Garret GT1752 would be great. Quick spool for low boost. I wouldn't run over 6-7 psi on and stock Honda motor. D15B's are great D's and I love mine.

grumblemarc May 11, 2012 10:21 PM

Re: D15B Boost
 

Originally Posted by Afist92 (Post 47330298)
The fact that I didn't specify what the rebuild internals were is due to the fact it's oem replacements so it was implied. I just wanted to know a low budget build and how much boost it would handle before it just lifted the head off. Would appreciate it if you could just help me out and not criticize/critique my post. I bought the car as is so you are correct in the aspect that I don't know exactly what was put in. All my friend said was he rebuilt the whole motor with stock internals and he was done putting time and money into the car.

Then mention that in the first post and DON'T waste anyone's time by implying anything please. Next, attempt to use the search function BEFORE you post or you are once again, wasting people's time. Nothing you are about to ask is new territory. The information is already out there.
https://honda-tech.com/search.php
It is common knowledge that a D-series block in good health can handle about 200hp on stock engine internals.

Swap'DShuttle May 12, 2012 12:02 AM

Re: D15B Boost
 
^^ Indeed, extremely charted territory. Unless you're going big its going to be a bit of a waste of time unless you get tons of shit used. Expect to make no more that a bit over 200whp on a stock bottom end if you want it to last somewhat. And if you aren't tuning it don't waste you're time. FJ Dist has bottom end kits for $420 plus shipping that support 600whp and they make kits specifically for the D15b.

Afist92 May 12, 2012 04:11 AM

Re: D15B Boost
 

Originally Posted by Swap'DShuttle (Post 47330736)
^^ Indeed, extremely charted territory. Unless you're going big its going to be a bit of a waste of time unless you get tons of shit used. Expect to make no more that a bit over 200whp on a stock bottom end if you want it to last somewhat. And if you aren't tuning it don't waste you're time. FJ Dist has bottom end kits for $420 plus shipping that support 600whp and they make kits specifically for the D15b.

Thanks, i appreciate acutal useful information and not just being hasseled on what i do and dont know. And i will definitely tune it im not that ignorant. The last post i read about boost is that JDM blocks can handle 10 pounds of boost. And i know i need bigger injectors and higher out put fuel pump. my friend is selling me his 450cc DMS blue top injectors with the resistor box. I just wanted to know if there are any cheaper alternatives than buying a new Garrett or Turbonetics setup. Thanks again

grumblemarc May 12, 2012 04:18 AM

Re: D15B Boost
 

Originally Posted by Dc4LsTeG (Post 47299158)
You go off how much HP not psi (boost)

For someone that claims to want to learn, you sure are NOT listening.

E_F_9 May 12, 2012 04:20 AM

Re: D15B Boost
 
You can't say it will hold 10psi.. 10psi on one turbo will make different power than another on 10psi. As far as I know fj distributors is no longer taking orders. A safe bet is that 200hp is a good amount on stock internals, after that you're pushing your luck.

Afist92 May 12, 2012 04:31 AM

Re: D15B Boost
 

Originally Posted by grumblemarc (Post 47330909)
For someone that claims to want to learn, you sure are NOT listening.

Listening to what you havent taught me anything other than you like to be rude. sorry my car is fully tucked the bay is flawless and i dont have wheel gap. I did learn that it looks dumb to have either of those. I asked a simple question. And for wanting to be the "teacher" your lessons are little to no help or maybe just beyond misunderstood from my end. If you could have asked me the things i did not specify or ask for more detail in general and not post in a stand offish way then we wouldnt have any issues. Sorry i havent built hondas for ever or had much time to read everything there is to know about them. I just wanted some help that was all. Not to be scolded by someone who apparently knows everything but is in no mood to be helpful. The grumpiest is very fitting for your motto lol.

grumblemarc May 12, 2012 04:53 AM

Re: D15B Boost
 
I'm not trying to be your "teacher". I'm telling you to get off your hump and use the search feature and help yourself and STOP asking to be spoonfed this info like all the other noobs do when they feel they want to boost. I don't HAVE to ask you what you have done because I know that would be nothing. You are the one that wants to "imply" things and could have stated the things that they have done so far but did not.

I repeat. Nothing you are asking is breaking any new ground. Use the search feature, Google, or whatever resource you need, to answer these tired questions yourself.

Hidenplanvew May 12, 2012 10:49 AM

Re: D15B Boost
 
F***ing noobs, not taking the time to read... Its not just him telling you info there have been others who have been telling you correct info.. But you insist on doing whatever you want so enjoy when the motor blows up when you hit 10psi on prob an ebay turbo.

Dseries have the weakest rods and can handle alittle over 220 whp, That means very low boost

nealnanoHX May 12, 2012 05:17 PM

Re: D15B Boost
 
Hmmmm stock rebuild...stock HP limits. D series about 200whp is pushing the limit of the stock rods, rings lands and rod bolts oh and D series are known for head lift under boost. And keep in mind the D15 is not quiet as strong as a D16Z6. Noobs need to search and read, this info has been posted on the internet a million times. 5-10 minutes and google would have answered your questions.

Thepowderblue May 12, 2012 05:27 PM

Re: D15B Boost
 
None, Stock pistons cant handle boost. sooner or later it will brake the ringlands

Afist92 May 12, 2012 06:22 PM

Re: D15B Boost
 
Lol maybe i should just get another Quattro there is wayy to much hating goin on in the honda relm. I thought in school they taught you if you had a question just ask. Sorry i didnt wanna look through a million post to read 30 different answers i just figured someone who was well rounded on the topic could just help me out but apparently not..btw the word noob is really original haha

Swap'DShuttle May 13, 2012 12:01 AM

Re: D15B Boost
 

Originally Posted by nealnanoHX (Post 47332904)
Hmmmm stock rebuild...stock HP limits. D series about 200whp is pushing the limit of the stock rods, rings lands and rod bolts oh and D series are known for head lift under boost. And keep in mind the D15 is not quiet as strong as a D16Z6. Noobs need to search and read, this info has been posted on the internet a million times. %-10 minutes and google would have answered your questions.

D15's are just as good as D16's (Go Autoworks just released D15b2 bottom end kit) We're also talking about the D15b. The almost exact equivalent to the Usdm Z6. Unique crank, pistons, cam and its a 1.5. Po8 block code. Just checked and yeah something is up with FJ. Lame. If you build properly and use arp's like most do you wont have any headlift problems unless you're improperly torquing them.

Since you are doing a low boost build I'd say try a ching chong turbo, its hit or miss, they're cheap, and you aren't going to be stressing one at all. Keep it cheap or go big and find a good bottom end kit. Sucks that you already rebuilt with stock components.

grumblemarc May 13, 2012 01:54 AM

Re: D15B Boost
 

Originally Posted by Afist92 (Post 47333071)
Lol maybe i should just get another Quattro there is wayy to much hating goin on in the honda relm. I thought in school they taught you if you had a question just ask. Sorry i didnt wanna look through a million post to read 30 different answers i just figured someone who was well rounded on the topic could just help me out but apparently not..btw the word noob is really original haha

They taught me that when you need to do research, you go to the library and read some books.

nealnanoHX May 13, 2012 07:43 AM

Re: D15B Boost
 

Originally Posted by Thepowderblue (Post 47332935)
None, Stock pistons cant handle boost. sooner or later it will brake the ringlands

No little bro. A D series can do 200-220whp safely with a good tune. After that you need to do forged rods and pistons.

nealnanoHX May 13, 2012 07:49 AM

Re: D15B Boost
 

Originally Posted by Swap'DShuttle (Post 47334142)
D15's are just as good as D16's (Go Autoworks just released D15b2 bottom end kit) We're also talking about the D15b. The almost exact equivalent to the Usdm Z6. Unique crank, pistons, cam and its a 1.5. Po8 block code. Just checked and yeah something is up with FJ. Lame. If you build properly and use arp's like most do you wont have any headlift problems unless you're improperly torquing them.

Since you are doing a low boost build I'd say try a ching chong turbo, its hit or miss, they're cheap, and you aren't going to be stressing one at all. Keep it cheap or go big and find a good bottom end kit. Sucks that you already rebuilt with stock components.

Not true a D15 will make less power under the same boost as lets say a Z6 because it is a smaller motor. So it will take more boost to get 200whp out of it. More boost means more cylinder pressure that the weak stock pistons and rods are not built to handle.
As for head lift I was referring to the stock head bolts. Of coarse if you run ARP head studs you will not have head lift issues but the OP is asking about a stock motor.
Dont use anything Ebay especially the turbo.

Afist92 May 13, 2012 10:32 AM

Re: D15B Boost
 
Thanks guys ill check it out, yea i heard FJ got robbed and are backed up on orders. I might take it back apart before it gets running the other problem i am having is im not getting spark. The distributor is brand new with NGK plugs and wires. The igniter an cap and rotor are getting voltage just nothing past the plugs. Im working on figuring out whether its the Ecu is not puttin out a signal or if the igniter is not functioning properly. wiring is not my forte but a friend of mine who is a professional tuner said he would help me out. ill let ya know what i find out and when. Thanks again for the advice

Spawne32 May 13, 2012 12:21 PM

Re: D15B Boost
 
lol this is like a battle of who has the tiniest penis in this thread


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