king06

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Lol that's me. Ill see if I can get a pic of the dyno graph.
We know exactly what turbo it was, it was bought as a kit from peakboost right before he whent MIA. Not trying to start anything, just saying its been done.




Were both in phoenix AZ. Locash tuned.

AZ_CIVIC

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Turbos Direct but were talking 2008

AZ_CIVIC

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I think maybe he meant price on the turbo?

king06

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Oh. I missed that. $600 is an OLD price lol.

DC4KiD

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Keyword: were. Lol. They've gone up in the last few years, averaging about $730 + shipping.

DC4KiD

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Like I said, I could be wrong, haha. Must be one heck of an efficient setup

Geis

Yeah hence why I was asking...man those turbos are such rip offs nowadays, I mean I know they work well and are solid proven units but for not much more you can have something a lot, lot better.

LightningTeg

What is that exactly?

Geis

Well I'm assuming a Hunter, gt28 journal bearing, gt3255, predator and surfer all start from 820-(950?) and those basically cover everything from a t3 super 60 to a 60-1 and all the t3/t4s.

So for 1-200 dollars more you can have much more modern technology wheels and designs, albeit they are still journals.

STC man...you should know :p

Geis

I'm not sure about Comp but I thought I saw some billet turbos from them for pretty decent prices as well, borgwarners are a bit too pricey for me to really consider though since you can get ball bearing for around the same price, unless you are planning to spend 1500+ then the EFRs may be worth it.

Geis

Nah, you're not



I fully admit that I was wrong about the flow rate; I got it mixed up with the 50 trim, but it's funny because the 57 trim flows even less, 45lbs/min about

It is not possible to push the 53+lbs out of it in order to get 470 whp, not to mention its pretty hard to max it out as is with high IATS, no way it can even get maxxed without knock resistant fuel and an efficient intercooler.

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ls joker

whats up. what you doin in my neck of the woods.

investigating turbobanned

PyroProblem

Perhaps the dyno reads higher?
(I try to not get caught up in the actual numbers themselves, as theyre used as a tuning tool, not a measuring standard to another dyno in another location with different conditions)

ls joker

on my stock b16a engine, b16 cams, afi 18x 6.5x 3.5 garrett core fmic.

at 364whp on a mustang dyno my iats were bout high 160s, and the power was gaining with added pleasure

Geis

Still nowhere near 470whp on any dyno
no dyno will read that much higher than whats possible, unless it was literally made to bullshit numbers to the max...which i've never seen

ls joker

ive heard of some high dynopacks. but, nearly fifty whp off

PyroProblem

Wont a dyna pak always read higher (than say a dynojet) since the wheel and tire combo is removed during the pull?
I figure a wheel and tire combo has to be worth about 50 lbs that the engine doesn't have to turn.

ls joker

sounds viable. but, its only tool. i personally like jumpin on other dynos just for comparisons

Geis

Yeah but even 420whp on 91 octane with a '300hp tiny intercooler' on a 57 trim?
Come one guys, I can't be the only one who's thinking 'bullshit'

blackeg

i made 415 on jeff evans dynapack in '08 i think it was. right about 18-20 psi iirc on the 57 trim 93 octane. 84mmlsvtec. not that it was optimal at all, but it happened

ls joker

yea its doable. did you have gsr or type r cams when you made the 415whp pull

Geis

I feel like I would start being a broken record if I responded with...oh f*ck it

AZ_CIVIC

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People can believe what they want. I also pulled a nice 960whp out of my 62mm Garrett Journal bearing unit as well. Pulled over 900 out of my Comp 62mm that Joe just used to run a 9.0 and set a record for the fastest FIS Honda in the country.

I really don't care about dyno numbers though it's what it does at the track. I've pulled turbos on and off my car at least 25 times in the past couple months working with both Turbo's Direct and Comp. You wouldn't believe what kind of losses and pickups you can get by Testing, Testing, Testing.

Fact of the matter is, along time ago when I did run the 57 trim it made good power on E85.
84.5 mm Darton Sleeved Block
10:1 compression pistons
Eagle Rods

Joe Alaniz Race head
Type R cams
Edelbrock Manifold

Simple but effective, plus all those little flow graphs people always present really don't mean jack in the real world on real cars. Let's say we push our cars and turbos to the max. We don't play safe, I have busted multiple compressor wheels on the dyno and track in the past couple months alone pushing the turbo harder than any simulations or in house testing does. This helps both the company and us testers figure out what works.

But hey what do I know, someone has flow graphs LOL.

Geis

It's not even that man, it would be like me coming in here saying I pushed by gt28rs to 400whp....it just isn't going to happen on any engine