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Old 05-18-2011, 06:29 AM
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Default competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

I just installed mine with the stock flywheel 200 miles ago. I've noticed it is truly a pain in the *** to drive. Off the line it chatters pretty bad and even chatters going into 2nd or 3rd if you drag the pedal alittle. Driving more aggressively the clutch chirps. At first I thought it was the tires but its the clutch. Chirps in every gear if you drive normal yet aggressively.


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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

How's the condition of your motor mounts?
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

They are Hasport streets that were installed at the same time as the clutch.
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

my hassport streets well didnt last long at all man, and they are getting ready to become solids
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

Certainly not worn mounts then. I have no experience with the CC Stage 4, but with clutches that is certainly an area I do not follow the typical Honda-Tech advice. You always get led to "bigger, badder, harsher" then what is really necessary.

You might get used to it after a while and not even notice anymore. Hopefully someone else with a CC Stage 4 chimes in.
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

how much power are we talking about because the mounts could be an issue as well

my exedy twin was rough at first then i learned that the more you baby it the worse it is
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

ive never been a fan of the comp clutches. the pedal feel is so light you cant "feel" the engagement. i have a stage 4 in my s2k, i used a stage 1 in my itr, and ive driven a stage 4 on a b series coupe as well. i prefer the feel of an act over them hands down.
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

Originally Posted by sanman000719
how much power are we talking about because the mounts could be an issue as well

my exedy twin was rough at first then i learned that the more you baby it the worse it is
Around 130whp give or take.

And that is exactly how it is. If you ride the clutch alittle for a smooth shift the dash shakes from the chatter of the clutch. And what's up with the chirp from the clutch if you let it out faster?
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

Stg 4 Competition clutch for 130whp?? holy moly. I had an ACT last year and the pressure plate springs broke on the dyno with less than 150 miles on it. I bought the CC stage 4 and i love it. That clutch held 450whp last year no problem. The pedal feel was a little light but I thought it was a very smooth clutch with awesome driveability. I will continue to run CC clutches.
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

Do you have a sprung or un-sprung clutch disc?
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

3yrs now on my cc st 4 no problems
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Around 130whp give or take.

And that is exactly how it is. If you ride the clutch alittle for a smooth shift the dash shakes from the chatter of the clutch. And what's up with the chirp from the clutch if you let it out faster?
u must have an unsprung clutch....
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Sprung!!
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

Thats what I have as well.
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

Had a cc stage 4 and didn't like it at all. It was definitely chattery when to get moving, and was like an on and off switch. What a pain.
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

I have the competition stage 5. The pedal is very heavy, but I also got the upgraded pressure plate.

If I had to do it all over again I'd get the competition twin disc. It's expensive, but it's an all around better clutch than most on the market. Plus for those of you who get the upgraded pressure plate for that "heavy pedal" feel like I did...beware that it can ruin your thrust bearing in your block. You want to disable the clutch switch so you can start the car with the pedal out.
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

Had a stage 4 in my turbo sohc EK. Loved it.
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

Originally Posted by 97CWITR
Had a cc stage 4 and didn't like it at all. It was definitely chattery when to get moving, and was like an on and off switch. What a pain.
That is exactly how it is. It honestly is a pain in the *** to drive the car. Sometimes I can get it to drive like a dream and I think to myself "Ok this isn't so bad" but then I don't get it juuuuuust right the next redlight and I want to rip it out of the car and throw it away. It is hands down the most annoying clutch I have ever driven. I've driven a Spec stage 5 clutch in a Z06 that was smoother than this. (granted we are talking two totally different things)

But is this normal? I've never ever driven a car that the clutch chatters going into 4th and 5th gear!!!! WTF??
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

i have the same problem with my ccstage 4. bought it with cc 12lb flywheel. brand new stuff. I also have solid mounts. it does sucks for daily driving, taking off is an absolute nightmare sometimes.. driving in nyc, in traffic with this thing will make you think that getting out and push is an option. If i had to do this again i would of went with the cc full face disc, sprung, with stage 4 pressure plate. stock like pedal feel and can hold 400whp..
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

resurface the stock flywheel??
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

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resurface the stock flywheel??
Had a performance shop that is going to tune the car do the install. They were suppose to resurface it.
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Default Re: competition clutch stage 4 owners. Not impressed

i have about 400 miles on a cc stage 4, new flywheel, and pp. I think it is great for the streets/strip. If it's chattery something is wrong.. The clutch is anything but chattery. if the clutch is slipping it could be not adjusted correct they are a little tricky to adjust. I ended up replacing my slave cylinder and have had to adjust my pedal also. I would look at getting it adjusted better.
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i just recently installed a CC stage 4 unsprung with the CC 8 lb. flywheel. i loved the way it felt when i was driving it around on the streets. its really smooth and drives better than my stage 2 was. i also put a stage one in my moms sol
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Originally Posted by fcluddington
i have about 400 miles on a cc stage 4, new flywheel, and pp. I think it is great for the streets/strip. If it's chattery something is wrong.. The clutch is anything but chattery. if the clutch is slipping it could be not adjusted correct they are a little tricky to adjust. I ended up replacing my slave cylinder and have had to adjust my pedal also. I would look at getting it adjusted better.
The clutch is not slipping. And how do you adjust it?
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
The clutch is not slipping. And how do you adjust it?
To adjust the pedal, The clutch cylinder has a threaded rod end that attaches to the clutch pedal. If you are 100 percent sure you have no air and everything is working the proceed.
1. remove cotter pin to clevis pin at clutch pedal to clutch cylinder(cc). loosen jam nut on rod to cc. when loose do not pull out and keep it level.
2. there will be to much tension so loosen the two bolts that hold the cc. until you can remove clevis and now is where if your new to this count the number of turns you go. In your case i would decrease rod travel at cc. go 2 turns in. reinstall and try. By reducing travel your clutch will disengage half to 3/4 to floor.
reistall, start car see when clutch engages and you might want to adjust the opposite way. Good luck


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